Best all-in-one tip tool out there...

shoutout33

shoutout33

"The Emperor"
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Real simple question that's going to get a ton of variations. There was one tool that I wanted to get a while back. I saw it at Super Billiards Expo in 2000.

I don't remember the name of it, but is was made out of solid brass and was nice and heavy. I'm really trying to stay away from a lot excess stuff to carry around and I have my sneaky pete coming in a month so I'm starting to shop now.

Oh yeah, who here has used Talisman, Moori, or Tiger tips and what do you think of them. Also, the tips that'll be coming on my cues (if I remember it correctly....) are Triangle med-hard, with no lamination. Could I get some feed back on those as well? Thanks again.
 
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I like the Ultimate tip tool but it is really only good for scuffing/ shaping, in my experience. I have seen lotsa scratched ferrules and popped-off tips from the fork end so I wouldnt suggest it for de-shrooming.
 
Black-Balled said:
I like the Ultimate tip tool but it is really only good for scuffing/ shaping, in my experience. I have seen lotsa scratched ferrules and popped-off tips from the fork end so I wouldnt suggest it for de-shrooming.
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I would say the ultimate tip tool. If you are carefull the de-shrooming works without harming your tip/ferrule.
 
shoutout33 said:
Real simple question that's going to get a ton of variations. There was one tool that I wanted to get a while back. I saw it at Super Billiards Expo in 2000.

I don't remember the name of it, but is was made out of solid brass and was nice and heavy. I'm really trying to stay away from a lot excess stuff to carry around and I have my sneaky pete coming in a month so I'm starting to shop now.

Oh yeah, who here has used Talisman, Moori, or Tiger tips and what do you think of them. Also, the tips that'll be coming on my cues (if I remember it correctly....) are Triangle med-hard, with no lamination. Could I get some feed back on those as well? Thanks again.
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The best tip tool out there is the Master's Chalk Cube (preferrably blue). Some players may not be aware of this but chalk is an abbrassive material. You actually end up shaping your tip EVERY TIME you chalk your cue. You really should shape a tip with an actual tip tool once when you first put it on, then let the chalk do the work. (It's also nice because it prevents you from miscueing)

As for the tips, all layered tips are pretty much the same. We actually had a discussion about this last night and it was agreed, they don't play noticeably different. I mean, soft and hard can show a difference but hard moori versus hard sniper, no difference. Oh, and the greatest agreed upon advantage to any layered tip is that it requires minimal cue maintenance. They simply don't mushroom as much as single piece tips.
 
Jude is 100% correct as far as shaping - BUT - The Best TIP is.

THE BEST TIPS ARE - (IMHO)
The VERY BEST tip comes from a 2.3 ton Rhino. I like to use the fore-skin (leather) from a recently circumcised male Rhino.
It is the VERY BEST tip material for cues - BUT - they are very expensive.
The leather from this circumcised Rhino isn't that costly to make - BUT - the African Natives that harvest them want to charge a fortune.
I do have 3 that I can let go of - BUT - I would have to charge you $2,600 apiece because the tribe that has been getting them for me is running short on them.
Not the Rhinos - The Natives!

TY & GL
 
OldHasBeen said:
THE BEST TIPS ARE - (IMHO)
The VERY BEST tip comes from a 2.3 ton Rhino. I like to use the fore-skin (leather) from a recently circumcised male Rhino.
It is the VERY BEST tip material for cues - BUT - they are very expensive.
The leather from this circumcised Rhino isn't that costly to make - BUT - the African Natives that harvest them want to charge a fortune.
I do have 3 that I can let go of - BUT - I would have to charge you $2,600 apiece because the tribe that has been getting them for me is running short on them.
Not the Rhinos - The Natives!

TY & GL
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Yes and the nice thing about these tips is that you can rub it three times and it'll turn into a suitcase.
 
SkippyFL said:
I would say the ultimate tip tool. If you are carefull the de-shrooming works without harming your tip/ferrule.
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I agree with this. Since moving to good quality layered tips I've never used the fork section again as mushrooming is no longer an issue, just the tapping section and occasionally the shaping section.

I mean to pick up one of those cube shapers you can put on a key ring for use when being in a bar forces me to "playing off the wall" with some house cue thing.
 
The VERY BEST tip comes from a 2.3 ton Rhino. I like to use the fore-skin (leather) from a recently circumcised male Rhino.
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LoL! I mean, man I'm so embarrased to say this, I was actually going on this one for a GOOD minute. :p :D Man I feel so stupid! LOL! That was a good one O.H.B. LOL! So I guess what your saying is a cue tip is a cue tip right? Still depends on the player huh?

LOL! A recently circumcised 2.5 ton Rhino! LOL!
 
I like ...

Since I have been using the Hercules hard layed tip, I like the new TipPik
the best. If I need to straighten up the sides of the tip any, I use a little
light medium sandpaper just a little. Works good for me.

I like the new TipPik, and it fits on your keyring plus no cap with the new one.
 
tip pik on layered tip???

Do not use a tip pik on a layered tip ever. It will tear the layers apart. Breaks down the fibers in the leather and then your screwed. If you have a layered tip you should never have to touch it. The chalk and the way you play will keep your tip shaped to your style of play.

When i was in florida this guy in the league would come in 10 hour before the match. You would hear him jingline all the way from the parking lot. He would plop his breif case down and put 4 cues together. Then he would perform the most annoying30 minutes of tip torture i ever saw. It was awful. All of his tip tools were held together on onekeychain. So during all this tapping, grinding, filing and the inverted cue in the cue cube. The guy woulld rattle thoise damn things til he was done with all 4 cues. The best he was awful.I have a heart for all players and really dont care if you never make a ball. If you have 4 cues and do all that mojo i do expect a little skill.

Just my little funny story.

I would love to be that guys tip replacer. That guy probably mkes a car payent from this dude.
 
OldHasBeen said:
THE BEST TIPS ARE - (IMHO)
.... I like to use the fore-skin (leather) from a recently circumcised male Rhino.
...
TY & GL
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These would be Jewish rhinos I assume.
 
Think most All In One Tool do sever thing o.K. Like a Swiss Army Knife with 65 Attachments. they do many thing O.K., but not too many of the 65 Things Well.


Most Tips TASK Tools are reasonable in price, buy the Tool or Tools that Does Each TASK BEST. ;)
 
I gotta stick with my old Willard...a little light scuffing before each session keeps the tip perfect. :p
 
rayjay said:
I gotta stick with my old Willard...a little light scuffing before each session keeps the tip perfect. :p
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Really, you shouldn't scuff your tip that much. You're simply creating unnecessary wear. I mean, tip manufacturers will love you but you must understand chalk does the same thing and you have to chalk up.

I've talked to a bunch of players about this and what I've noticed, more knowledgeable players pay less attention to their equipment. There are tons of tip tools out there (and my bag has plenty of them) but rarely will you see any of the pros actually using them. Once that tip goes on, they'll pay it no mind until it's time to get a new one. Now, there are instances where it's important to address tip concerns. Mushrooming is not a good thing but that should tell you that perhaps you should get a tip that doesn't mushroom rather than a tool to trim down the excess.

If you're using a tip shaper every time you play pool, you need to consider using a different tip, possibly a softer one. There's simply no need for it.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
The best tip tool out there is the Master's Chalk Cube (preferrably blue). Some players may not be aware of this but chalk is an abbrassive material. You actually end up shaping your tip EVERY TIME you chalk your cue. You really should shape a tip with an actual tip tool once when you first put it on, then let the chalk do the work. (It's also nice because it prevents you from miscueing)

As for the tips, all layered tips are pretty much the same. We actually had a discussion about this last night and it was agreed, they don't play noticeably different. I mean, soft and hard can show a difference but hard moori versus hard sniper, no difference. Oh, and the greatest agreed upon advantage to any layered tip is that it requires minimal cue maintenance. They simply don't mushroom as much as single piece tips.
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I had a h2 on my cue and was told it was a meduim and it played like a soft tip ,And it was crap to me ..so not all layered tip play the same ...And tip tools r good if u know what to do with them..
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Really, you shouldn't scuff your tip that much. You're simply creating unnecessary wear. I mean, tip manufacturers will love you but you must understand chalk does the same thing and you have to chalk up.

I've talked to a bunch of players about this and what I've noticed, more knowledgeable players pay less attention to their equipment. There are tons of tip tools out there (and my bag has plenty of them) but rarely will you see any of the pros actually using them. Once that tip goes on, they'll pay it no mind until it's time to get a new one. Now, there are instances where it's important to address tip concerns. Mushrooming is not a good thing but that should tell you that perhaps you should get a tip that doesn't mushroom rather than a tool to trim down the excess.

If you're using a tip shaper every time you play pool, you need to consider using a different tip, possibly a softer one. There's simply no need for it.
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I'm sure you're right, Jude, but it gives me peace of mind, which is important to me, and I don't mind replacing the tip every six months or so. In the last issue of Billiards Digest, there was a feature about what's in the cases of several pros...they all had a tip tool of some sort...didn't say how often they use it, but I'm sure they're aware of the condition of their tip, at least before they start a match. :p
 
knowing what to do with my tip tool.

deadstroke32 said:
I had a h2 on my cue and was told it was a meduim and it played like a soft tip ,And it was crap to me ..so not all layered tip play the same ...And tip tools r good if u know what to do with them..
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i know what to do with mine, i have one in the case just to lend to any grinder in need of a fix.

laffin

pat
 
Have you seen Yang play?

Jude Rosenstock said:
Really, you shouldn't scuff your tip that much. You're simply creating unnecessary wear. I mean, tip manufacturers will love you but you must understand chalk does the same thing and you have to chalk up.

I've talked to a bunch of players about this and what I've noticed, more knowledgeable players pay less attention to their equipment. There are tons of tip tools out there (and my bag has plenty of them) but rarely will you see any of the pros actually using them. Once that tip goes on, they'll pay it no mind until it's time to get a new one. Now, there are instances where it's important to address tip concerns. Mushrooming is not a good thing but that should tell you that perhaps you should get a tip that doesn't mushroom rather than a tool to trim down the excess.

If you're using a tip shaper every time you play pool, you need to consider using a different tip, possibly a softer one. There's simply no need for it.
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Yang is a Pro with a *steel file* in his arsenal and he surely uses it in every game numerous times. :) Majority of the Taiwanese Pro players do this. It must be in the genes. :D

I need to know what grit is on that steel file. :rolleyes:
 
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Best tip shaping tools are a small square of 50 grit,small square of 100 grit,small square of leather. Oh and a nickle, dime or quarter to check your profile.
OHB must be talkin' bout the Ubangy tribe. :D

Terry
 
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