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what do you guys think about the Standard Super Pro Aramith Cue Bal?

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I like a red circle, but if I was you and had some money to put into to game that you will defenitly get back, I would buy little joes POOL IQ DVDs. Kicking and banking to a new level.
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Rob.M

I have both of little joes dvd's and they are both great and a must if you like to watch instructional videos!


No where did I say anything about $30 chalk or aiming systems:smile:. Johnnyt

i already have both :thumbup:

i am the type of guy that likes to try things and gain knowledge when i take a real interest in something. Im not expecting a new cue ball to make me a world beater but just looking for a ball that plays true and is consistent :) I passed by the hall i usually play at last night and there were three sets of balls in the trays sitting on the counter and i looked at all three cue balls and all three were different.

it sounds like the red circle may be the best but the store near me doesn't have one!
 
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I have both of little joes dvd's and they are both great and a must if you like to watch instructional videos!




i already have both :thumbup:

i am the type of guy that likes to try things and gain knowledge when i take a real interest in something. Im not expecting a new cue ball to make me a world beater but just looking for a ball that plays true :)

it sounds like the red circle may be the best but the store near me doesn't have one!

I too like to try new things and have about 6 or 7 types of CB's. I see no difference between any of them, only the cheap CB's don't have the chalk sticking to them like Aramith. I have two sets of Aramith pro cups and about $50 set from another company and see no differnce in them. Johnnyt
 
what do you guys think about the Standard Super Pro Aramith Cue Bal?

ar1013.jpg

I have that ball, plays very well. Actually I have all of them, and prefer the red circle. I like KMRUNOUTs description, its very good. Interesting about how 9 ballers prefer the red circle, I never knew that. But I have to agree, my straight pool friend always wants to use the blue circle! I dont know why, but to me the red circle draws a little easier. (I did weigh them once, but I forget the results.)
 
what do you guys think about the Standard Super Pro Aramith Cue Bal?

ar1013.jpg

I can tell you for a fact that this ball fades into a yellowish color. I have one. I also have a measle ball which I have used much much more, and it hasn't faded.

The aramith ball does not shine when it comes out of my ball cleaning maching (BallStar), but the measles ball does. Also, the aramith ball collects chalk marks much much easier - it is terrible. Measles ball not near as bad, and they come off in the ball cleaner machine.
 
I mostly use a Measles ball because that is what most of the tournaments and the league that I play use. I prefer the red circle ball more though. It's the same weight, but the weight distribution is different and makes it seem to play lighter. I find the red circle easier to move around.
 
I have that ball, plays very well. Actually I have all of them, and prefer the red circle. I like KMRUNOUTs description, its very good. Interesting about how 9 ballers prefer the red circle, I never knew that. But I have to agree, my straight pool friend always wants to use the blue circle! I dont know why, but to me the red circle draws a little easier. (I did weigh them once, but I forget the results.)

Bambu:

Actually, if you check out the currently active "14.1 cue ball" in the 14.1 forum, this should help explain to you why straight poolers prefer either the blue circle or the measles ball.

The pivotal piece of information is precisely what you state -- the red circle "moves" easier (e.g. with draw). Straight poolers are usually not interested in a "zingy" cue ball, because we are trying to minimize, not maximize, cue ball movement. Rotation players like a "zingy" cue ball (like the red circle) because, as others have already confirmed here, it's "easier to move around." Rotation games require cue ball movement, whereas straight pool -- in a properly envisioned and played pattern -- does NOT. Some of the most-admired straight pool runs are those in which the cue ball "sticks sticks sticks" as the player goes from shot to shot, and the final shot to the key ball before the break ball is another "stick" (stop) shot.

Summary: straight poolers are trying to "hold" their cue ball, whereas rotation players are trying to move it around. Big difference!

Anyway, I hope that helps clarify the distinction,
-Sean
 
what do you guys think about the Standard Super Pro Aramith Cue Bal?

ar1013.jpg

I was told that this is pretty much the same as a red circle. I have one; however, I haven't played iwth it because I generally use the Measle ball at home and carry another with me in my case.
 
I was told that this is pretty much the same as a red circle. I have one; however, I haven't played iwth it because I generally use the Measle ball at home and carry another with me in my case.

im going to grab that ball now and try it, plus its like half the price of a measel ball.
 
Thanks Sean, yes that makes sense.

The red swirl shown in the picture looks slightly different than mine. The ball itself looks a little whiter, too. I could be wrong, but there might be more than one version.
 
Thanks Sean, yes that makes sense.

The red swirl shown in the picture looks slightly different than mine. The ball itself looks a little whiter, too. I could be wrong, but there might be more than one version.

They (Saluc) actually did. I'm not sure if you remember, but the measles balls, as an example, stopped being offered for a stint. It was out for a several years since its introduction in 2003, and then one day, <poof!> -- it wasn't available anymore. The measles ball started being offered again a year or so later, and that new ball "looked" different -- i.e. the opacity of the phenolic resin used. I think somewhere mid-stream, Saluc changed their phenolic resin formulation. It could be that they had to re-tool for this new formulation, hence why there was a gap in their availability.

Interestingly, about that same time as that ball's disappearance, the infamous "comma cracks" issue was raging like wildfire here on these forums. You remember this? It was the issue of phenolic break cue tips putting "comma cracks" (cracks shaped like a ",") in the cue ball, and I forget who the poster/member was here on the AZB forums, but he posted movies of him using brand-new cue balls, breaking with your average everyday break cue with a phenolic tip, and then showing a "comma crack" on the cue ball right where he hit it. Then I'd say a year later (I'm summarizing -- dates escape me at the moment), the BCAPL outlawed phenolic tips on break cues.

I'm thinking the reason why you're suspecting there might be more than one version, could be the resin formulation change that Saluc executed. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part. I could be wrong.

-Sean
 
They (Saluc) actually did. I'm not sure if you remember, but the measles balls, as an example, stopped being offered for a stint. It was out for a several years since its introduction in 2003, and then one day, <poof!> -- it wasn't available anymore. The measles ball started being offered again a year or so later, and that new ball "looked" different -- i.e. the opacity of the phenolic resin used. I think somewhere mid-stream, Saluc changed their phenolic resin formulation. It could be that they had to re-tool for this new formulation, hence why there was a gap in their availability.

Interestingly, about that same time as that ball's disappearance, the infamous "comma cracks" issue was raging like wildfire here on these forums. You remember this? It was the issue of phenolic break cue tips putting "comma cracks" (cracks shaped like a ",") in the cue ball, and I forget who the poster/member was here on the AZB forums, but he posted movies of him using brand-new cue balls, breaking with your average everyday break cue with a phenolic tip, and then showing a "comma crack" on the cue ball right where he hit it. Then I'd say a year later (I'm summarizing -- dates escape me at the moment), the BCAPL outlawed phenolic tips on break cues.

I'm thinking the reason why you're suspecting there might be more than one version, could be the resin formulation change that Saluc executed. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part. I could be wrong.

-Sean


Yes Sean, I do remember that whole ban on plastic tips. Having never seen a problem with them, I thought the BCA made a poor decision. I do suspect the cue balls they tested to be the problem. I mean, the rest of the world still uses plastic tips without any issues.
 
Bambu:

Actually, if you check out the currently active "14.1 cue ball" in the 14.1 forum, this should help explain to you why straight poolers prefer either the blue circle or the measles ball.

The pivotal piece of information is precisely what you state -- the red circle "moves" easier (e.g. with draw). Straight poolers are usually not interested in a "zingy" cue ball, because we are trying to minimize, not maximize, cue ball movement. Rotation players like a "zingy" cue ball (like the red circle) because, as others have already confirmed here, it's "easier to move around." Rotation games require cue ball movement, whereas straight pool -- in a properly envisioned and played pattern -- does NOT. Some of the most-admired straight pool runs are those in which the cue ball "sticks sticks sticks" as the player goes from shot to shot, and the final shot to the key ball before the break ball is another "stick" (stop) shot.

Summary: straight poolers are trying to "hold" their cue ball, whereas rotation players are trying to move it around. Big difference!

Anyway, I hope that helps clarify the distinction,
-Sean

I used to watch a straight pool player who could run 100 balls every day. He liked the heavier balls MAINLY because they ploughed thru the rack better.
 
I was told that this is pretty much the same as a red circle. I have one; however, I haven't played iwth it because I generally use the Measle ball at home and carry another with me in my case.

Definitely NOT the same as the Red Circle. Those balls have a very different feel, look, etc.

KMRUNOUT
 
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