Best Pool Instructional Video

JoeyA

JoeyA

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AZers are a diverse group with many different individual perspectives. I have been thinking about creating a unique pool instructional video and wanted to ask all AZers in general, what would you like to see in a pool instructional video.

I would like to know what you think would make the video valuable from an instructional viewpoint and desirable from an entertainment perspective. Please be specific about what you think would make a video valuable and desirable.

Your opinions will be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks,
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
AZers are a diverse group with many different individual perspectives. I have been thinking about creating a unique pool instructional video and wanted to ask all AZers in general, what would you like to see in a pool instructional video.

I would like to know what you think would make the video valuable from an instructional viewpoint and desirable from an entertainment perspective. Please be specific about what you think would make a video valuable and desirable.

Your opinions will be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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JA,
You really should check out Jeanette Lee's new instructional DVD's from Expert Insight. That company is freaking amazing - their poker and golf DVD's are also just state-of-the-art. They really make maximal use of the video medium, and get inside the head of the pro's.

The DVD is targeted towards beginning players; and will give you a great idea of the kinds of things necessary in a video.

P.S. - The DVD contains a 9-ball match, reviewed by Jeanette and Jerry Briesath, between JL and a really feeble opponent who shall remain nameless (but breakup hated the guy).
 
JoeyA said:
AZers are a diverse group with many different individual perspectives. I have been thinking about creating a unique pool instructional video and wanted to ask all AZers in general, what would you like to see in a pool instructional video.

I would like to know what you think would make the video valuable from an instructional viewpoint and desirable from an entertainment perspective. Please be specific about what you think would make a video valuable and desirable.

Your opinions will be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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I could sure use one on understanding what the cue ball is going to do after contact with different english.
Just get it done whenever you can but HURRY UP! :D:D:D:D
Seriously I need it :)

BVal
 
Joey, you've basically asked the broadest possible question about pool instruction.

So, I have a few questions for you: Who is the target audience? Are there any particular games that you'll be dealing with for the instruction? Will it deal with the mental game? Will it be a compendium of how to pull off specific shots? etc...

Flex
 
I like this idea of an actual match in the DVD. Preferably the opponents may even be talking through each game, be it on position, how to strike the cueball, safety play, kicking methods, etc.

Williebetmore said:
P.S. - The DVD contains a 9-ball match, reviewed by Jeanette and Jerry Briesath, between JL and a really feeble opponent who shall remain nameless (but breakup hated the guy).
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JoeyA said:
AZers are a diverse group with many different individual perspectives. I have been thinking about creating a unique pool instructional video and wanted to ask all AZers in general, what would you like to see in a pool instructional video.

I would like to know what you think would make the video valuable from an instructional viewpoint and desirable from an entertainment perspective. Please be specific about what you think would make a video valuable and desirable.

Your opinions will be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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My opinion is the Market is Saturated with GREAT INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL ALREADY.

If you want to get into the pool Market, come up with some simple accessories that work, and are under $14.99/RETAIL. Example of stuff i love are the Spallini Bridgehead, QClaw, Willard, and last nit not least Tip Taper.

Another area to explore is a Better Pool Cue Case or the perfect Case. LOL.
 
I think a very helpful instructional video would be on one pocket, showing the different moves. You could break it up into 3 sections, beginner, intermediate and advanced levels.
 
Mental game.... Gotcha.

Position play .... Gotcha.

The break .... Gotcha.

Kick shots.... Gotcha.

Gambling, effective practice techniques, banking, reading the rack ... Gotcha too.

Anyone else?
 
I think one thing to consider is the level of players watching. That said, I think it may be best to have it in volumes. C+ players should be able to skip to the 2nd or 3rd disc without having to worry that they missed something in the first disc, and having to waste time relearning fundamentals such as grip, bridge, alignment, etc.

If a multi-disc option is off the table, then this can be done in chapters.

I've unfortunately had to view a few work-related tutorials when I've been stumped by various programs. I swear, the first 3 minutes I always want to shoot myself because it's so rudimentary.

That said, from an instructional point of view I think that as things get more advanced it's important not to go into elaborate depth before showing a shot. Sometimes videos go too much into each detail of the possibility of error on any given shot, that by the time the shot is demonstrated the viewer's head is a maze of confusion. They spent so much time listening that they didn't have enough time to understand any of it.

So when talking about cueball squirt using english, for example, aim the shot without compensating for squirt and then explain why the shot was missed. Then adjust, and make the ball. Then do the same shot at a slower speed and explain how it could swerve, resulting in another miss. Show the variables on a shot-by-shot basis so that people who don't even know what swerve is won't get it confused with squirt.
 
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I would like one that helps set up a practice regimine with drills and some way to measure and track your progression.

For example, the first one could be for 9 ball skills. You could start by discussing the game of 9 ball and the skills necessary in order to play common positional routes. Then discuss drills to practice in order to hone these skills. Give a homework assignment requiring the player to complete the drill a certain amount of times and record the results before coming back to the video.

Once the player records the results and comes back to the video you could have a different approach depending the players results. If they aced the drill you could move on to more advanced lesson, etc.

Then leave the player with a clear goal to reach and drills that, if praticed, should get them to that next step.

Then once they reach that goal they are ready for the next video in the series. "Advanced 9 Ball Safety Play" or whatever.
 
StevenPWaldon said:
I like this idea of an actual match in the DVD. Preferably the opponents may even be talking through each game, be it on position, how to strike the cueball, safety play, kicking methods, etc.
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Steven,
I agree; and so do the Expert Insight guys. I'm really hoping they will take their concept to the advanced level with pool (though I'm not sure there is enough of a market to warrant it).

Their advanced poker video's use exactly the method you describe - the pro talks the viewer through every action....what are they doing, why are they doing it, what do they expect their chances of succes are as they do it, how do they adjust their play to any given opponent. They then use the video to highlight each important principle as it arises in the game. It is a superior approach to instruction.
 
Here are some ideas that I'd like to see put in a video.

First, compensation allowances for different kinds of balls. How does one do that?

Second, adapting to the different speeds of cloth. What kind of changes should one employ when going from a slow cloth to a fast one, and how do cloth speeds affect compensation for shots made with english at different speeds and distances.

Third, the use of "kill shots"

Fourth, the "big" shots of pool,

Fifth, how to develop a world class stroke,

Sixth, how to play position for 9 ball, and how to recover when blowing shape

Seventh, how to lose one's fear of shooting the 8 ball, as well as methods for dealing with the difficulty in seeing what one is shooting at when the 8 is the target

Eighth, how to develop a good break for 9 ball, 8 ball, and one pocket. The effects of various cues on the one pocket break, i.e., how to aim, and stroke, with what kind of english for a good break, and how the choice of cue or shaft and so on will make that easier or more difficult.

Ninth, power stroke shots, with and without english. How best to pull them off.

Tenth, how to adjust to different tables when kicking and banking

Eleventh, how to find out if one's eyesight and perception of the balls and angles on the table can affect one's ability to play well, and how to compensate for skewed perception of these elements

Whew.........

LOL

Good luck, Joey!

Cheers,

Flex
 
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You guys are really coming with the good stuff. I see for the most part that most of you want valuable pool instruction and I HEAR YOU.

Keep them coming.

It appears that most of you could care less about entertainment value. Correct me if I am wrong.

Also, I read in between the lines with some of your posts and I like knowing what you DON'T LIKE in a pool instructional video.

Thanks for all of your posts.

JoeyA
 
I have the videos from Mike Siegel on perfect 8 ball and 9 ball. I have the banking and kicking system The Monk 202 by Dr Cue. I also have to ass the racking secerts by Joe Tucker. I have watched just about everything out there and i have to say i got more from these then any others. It really depends on what someone wants to learn I guess, Doug
 
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Flex said:
Here are some ideas that I'd like to see put in a video.

First, compensation allowances for different kinds of balls. How does one do that?

Second, adapting to the different speeds of cloth. What kind of changes should one employ when going from a slow cloth to a fast one, and how do cloth speeds affect compensation for shots made with english at different speeds and distances.

Third, the use of "kill shots"

Fourth, the "big" shots of pool,

Fifth, how to develop a world class stroke,

Sixth, how to play position for 9 ball, and how to recover when blowing shape

Seventh, how to lose one's fear of shooting the 8 ball, as well as methods for dealing with the difficulty in seeing what one is shooting at when the 8 is the target

Eighth, how to develop a good break for 9 ball, 8 ball, and one pocket. The effects of various cues on the one pocket break, i.e., how to aim, and stroke, with what kind of english for a good break, and how the choice of cue or shaft and so on will make that easier or more difficult.

Ninth, power stroke shots, with and without english. How best to pull them off.

Tenth, how to adjust to different tables when kicking and banking

Eleventh, how to find out if one's eyesight and perception of the balls and angles on the table can affect one's ability to play well, and how to compensate for skewed perception of these elements

Whew.........

LOL

Good luck, Joey!

Cheers,

Flex
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Hello Flex, Its funny but the tapes that i mention in another post just happen to cover most of everything you are looking for. Try them i am sure they will help. Good luck, Doug
 
Hey, You DESERVE it

JoeyA said:
AZers are a diverse group with many different individual perspectives. I have been thinking about creating a unique pool instructional video and wanted to ask all AZers in general, what would you like to see in a pool instructional video.

I would like to know what you think would make the video valuable from an instructional viewpoint and desirable from an entertainment perspective. Please be specific about what you think would make a video valuable and desirable.

Your opinions will be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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I'm not feeling well today, BUT:
This is a very interesing thread that you've started and I think you should get Rep for it, so I'm going to give you some Rep..... dammit.
Doug
( btw, you've been doing a MUCH better job of re-visiting your threads.... imo ) :)


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mr8ball said:
Hello Flex, Its funny but the tapes that i mention in another post just happen to cover most of everything you are looking for. Try them i am sure they will help. Good luck, Doug
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Thanks, Doug.

Actually, I posted those topics as I think they can be most useful to a wide range of intermediate players, not that I am seeking the answers to those questions.

However, the one about developing a world class stroke may not exactly be something that can be taught on tape, a world class instructor might be needed on a one-to-one basis for that, to make corrections to a particular person's setup and body shape.

It sounds like JoeyA has something really good up his sleeve...

Flex
 
Hi Joey;

Pro level players, playing various games with commentary on strategy and technique.

Mike
 
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