Best way to play these 3 balls?

Hal said:
Sure. Here it is:
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Oh yeah, I thought of that, but it's too risky in this case...you'd use that if you where straight in or slightly angled the other way on the seven. There is no need to fight it that bad! This would not only risk rattling the seven but the position that you have even if you hit it perfect is still not all that great.

I would stick to playing a little draw or low-left if you like (but don't get on the wrong side of the eight!). If you come short, then you're stuck playing it in the side and coming under the nine...that's just the way it is.

You have to execute either way, but try to get in line sooner in the rack and on the easiest ball to pocket; the seven.
 
I would definitely play for the 8 in one of the top corner pockets. Depending on the tightness of the pockets, and exactly how the 7 is laying, you should be able to cheat the pocket one way or the other, or, if not, simply draw straight back for the same corner as the 7.

I can't speak for anyone else here, but the reason I don't like playing the 8 in the side is due to the risk of ending up in that straight-in no man's land that exists b/w the side and corner pockets. That's the one where there are only two directions you can go (straight forward and straight back), and both of them send whitey straight toward a pocket. Good 9-ball players will usually try to avoid positions A (A didn't show up, but it's where the cb is) & B like the plague because of the risk of ending up in that no man's land. They will usually do whatever it takes to get to either pos. C or D because of the dramatic increase in positional options.

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Good luck!

Aaron
 
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This one is easy (for me). I'd shoot the seven in the corner and then see where the cueball ends up. Then I'd fire the eightball in and get straight in on the nineball.... VIOLA !
Doug
 
Hal said:
I understand. But some of mosconiacs, as well as the last one I diagrammed, have the potential for doing this:

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You are right, Hal. You can always make a mistake. That is exactly why I ranked the shots in the order I did...I tried to minimize the chance for positional error by expanding the position zone as much as possible all the while using position angles that are easy to control (natural angle with medium CB speeds). In the end, you need to look 3 balls ahead, weigh your options & percentages, and pull the trigger with confidence.

Personally, I would rather end up short on the 8 (like in your diagram) than long where I would have to play position off the 8 at least 2 rails. There is little chance of getting anywhere close to the 9.
 
You have to play the 8-ball for a corner pocket. The reason I say such has to do with where the 8-ball lays in relation to the side-pocket. It's simply not going to be comfortable cutting that ball in the side and gaining shape. The only shot you want on the side-pocket is straight and that might not get you to the 9-ball. Either draw a little or a lot but you need to get to corner-pocket shape for the 8. From there, there's a plethora of ways to get on the 9.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
You have to play the 8-ball for a corner pocket. The reason I say such has to do with where the 8-ball lays in relation to the side-pocket. It's simply not going to be comfortable cutting that ball in the side and gaining shape. The only shot you want on the side-pocket is straight and that might not get you to the 9-ball. Either draw a little or a lot but you need to get to corner-pocket shape for the 8. From there, there's a plethora of ways to get on the 9.
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Yes,its nice to shoot into the corners,especially when you have more pocket to shoot into,sometimes the tight angles into the sides are tough even if you dont have to put anything on the ball but if you have to load it up with a stroke and high right like you said i will ask you this question,"Do you like nipples?".:)
 
I Like 'Em, I Like 'Em

Fast Lenny axed: "Do you like nipples?".:)


Yes, if they haven't got blue chalk on them and the side cup hasn't come loose.
Doug
 
I'd stop the 7-ball in the corner. Then stop the 8-ball in the side. Then I'd rake the 9-ball since the world is giving me the 8 and the breaks.

Fred
 
Hal said:
This is what I did: A bank shot never occured to me.
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This is probably what I would have gone for, provided that the side pocket is acceptable. Some bar tables, the side pocket is entirely too small. If it is acceptable, then just like you did, I like to get on the low side of the 8ball so that when I follow the cueball, the path flattens out.

I think this shot just needs to be set up on a table so that we don't get fooled as to what is difficult, what is easy, and what is downright impossible.

Fre
 
Cornerman said:
I'd stop the 7-ball in the corner. Then stop the 8-ball in the side. Then I'd rake the 9-ball since the world is giving me the 8 and the breaks.

Fred
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Best answer yet!!

At first glance, I liked the stop shot on the 7, the stop shot on the 8, and bank the nine.

If I were playing for $25,000 in this rack, I would have to play the percentages and use a little follow off the rail on the seven, leaving the cue for a straight in 8 in the low left corner, and then using low left draw to pull the cue back off the end rail for straight in shape on the 9 in the top left corner.
 
belmicah said:
Best answer yet!!

At first glance, I liked the stop shot on the 7, the stop shot on the 8, and bank the nine.

If I were playing for $25,000 in this rack, I would have to play the percentages and use a little follow off the rail on the seven, leaving the cue for a straight in 8 in the low left corner, and then using low left draw to pull the cue back off the end rail for straight in shape on the 9 in the top left corner.
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This leaves room for error,if you get on the wrong side of the 8 and shoot it into the low left corner you might have trouble getting on the nine.
 
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Fast Lenny said:
Yes,its nice to shoot into the corners,especially when you have more pocket to shoot into,sometimes the tight angles into the sides are tough even if you dont have to put anything on the ball but if you have to load it up with a stroke and high right like you said i will ask you this question,"Do you like nipples?".:)
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Just takin' your advice. My way is nothin' but corners!;)
 
I think I changed my mind on this one. The safest way is the way mosconiac showed in his second diagram on the first page.

We probably all agree that the first shot is the most important. If you draw back on the 7, there is plenty of room for error on getting shape for the 8. If you miss your shape real short, you can shoot the eight on the top left corner and stun (or slight follow) over for the nine in the same corner. If you roll a little further back, you can shoot the eight in the same side as the nine and follow for shape on the 9 in the top left corner. If you go even further off the side rail, you can shoot the 8 in the top right corner and draw over for the nine in the top right. If you go even further still, you can pocket the eight in the top left corner and go two rails around for shape on the 9 in the same corner.

And finally, if you are straight, or almost straight in, you can follow off the end rail for the nine. Either way you see it, it should be safe here to draw back off the side rail for shape on the 8.
 
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BoSoxFanatic21 said:
7 in the corner, slight follow to keep it off the rail. Stun or slight follow 8 into near side, bank 9 into same pocket that 8 was holed.

Thats just me, I'm pretty confident in my single-rail banks.
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You would seriously bank the 9?

If we are playing them in rotation, the shoot the 7 ball with draw and put the 8 ball in the same pocket with follow and play the 9 straight up into the corner.
 
Fast Lenny said:
This leaves room for error,if you get on the wron side of the 8 and shoot it into the low left corner you might have trouble getting on the nine.
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Yes, I agree. You have to get out of the side-pocket lane on the 8-ball and into a corner-pocket lane. It really doesn't matter how you go about it so long as you're not shooting into that side.
 
Hal said:
Why would you NEVER shoot the 8ball into the side pocket?
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i would.

I assume that the 7 ball is just about straight in.

Shoot the 7 ball in the corner & draw back about 4-5 inches. Shoot 8 ball in side with a little draw to make the cue ball lay on the rail close to the 9. Shoot the 9 down in the corner (not the same corner as the 7)
 
Hal, I would never even consider the 8 in the side from this layout. I'd shoot the 8 in one of the foot pockets, which one depends on exact angle on the 7. The nine goes in the same pocket as the 7.

Rod
 
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