best way to square up a carbide saw

[whammo57]

I have a carbide saw blade mounted in my router with a mandrel from KJ.

It works great for cutting rings of the billet but I cannot consistently set it up right.

Sometimes it is perfect and other times I can't seem to get it right.

What is the best way to square it up horizontally and vertically.

Any hints will be appreciated.

thanks

Kim

 

[juspooln]

what mount are you using and what machine?

 

[scdiveteam]

I have a carbide saw blade mounted in my router with a mandrel from KJ.

It works great for cutting rings of the billet but I cannot consistently set it up right.

Sometimes it is perfect and other times I can't seem to get it right.

What is the best way to square it up horizontally and vertically.

Any hints will be appreciated.

thanks

Kim

Kim,

Take a piece of scrap maple and chuck it up and put a precision face on it.

Then mount your router and tighten your tool hold down when the face of the saw and the maple part are squared flush. Then chuck up your billet mount your X axis dial indicator and cut rings.

I do it that way with KJs carbide wheel and most of the time the rings are right on in with but I accept .001. You are going to lap then anyway.

Rick

 

[ELBeau]

How about a co-ax indicator?

 

[whammo57]

Kim,

Take a piece of scrap maple and chuck it up and put a precision face on it.

Then mount your router and tighten your tool hold down when the face of the saw and the maple part are squared flush. Then chuck up your billet mount your X axis dial indicator and cut rings.

I do it that way with KJs carbide wheel and most of the time the rings are right on in with but I accept .001. You are going to lap then anyway.

Rick

I just got a message to call BHQ. He told me to do exactly what you say.

I will try that. It sounds so simple. Why didn't I think of that????

Probably because I was pissed off from playing with the alighment and messing up a few rings.

Thanks for the info.

Kim

 

[BHQ]

I just got a message to call BHQ. He told me to do exactly what you say.


it's more fun than typing
says me > the two fingered typist , hunt & peck

 

[whammo57]

Just to add a note......

You cannot mount a PC router horizontally on top of the cross slide on a hightower lathe. The body of the router hits the cross slide because it is too big around. You have to mount it hanging off the table and then you can't move it enough to cut rings off the billet.


Soooooooooooooooooo

I moved the ring cutting operation to my chinese mini lathe. With the compound slide, it works well and I am able to use the method suggested by BHQ and Rick to align the saw blade.

pics available on request

thanks for the help

Kim

 

[It's George]

router

Just to add a note......

You cannot mount a PC router horizontally on top of the cross slide on a hightower lathe. The body of the router hits the cross slide because it is too big around. You have to mount it hanging off the table and then you can't move it enough to cut rings off the billet.


Soooooooooooooooooo

I moved the ring cutting operation to my chinese mini lathe. With the compound slide, it works well and I am able to use the method suggested by BHQ and Rick to align the saw blade.

pics available on request

thanks for the help

Kim

You can mount a Dewalt on a Hightower.

 

[whammo57]

You can mount a Dewalt on a Hightower.

I also have a dewalt and I cannot mount it either. The PC and the dewalt are the same frame.

I use them both vertically and they mount just fine. Try mounting one lying down. It doesn't work unless you hang it off the table and I cannot use it that way.

Kim

 

[yahosh]

Have you tried mounting it on the very end of the crosslide and bringing it towards you to make the cut? You have to remove the taper bar bearing, but it works well for me.
Josh

 

[Busbee Cue]

Hello Kim,

I had the same problem and have found this setup to work very well on my Deluxe Lathe. It is a little costly but makes cuting rings very easy. I use the KJ cutter and the porter cable (Dewalt) router with this mount:

http://k2cnc.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=RM-PC7310-Trimmer

Once everything is squared up it cuts rings like butter and so thin you can almost see through them if you want them that thin.

 

[whammo57]

Have you tried mounting it on the very end of the crosslide and bringing it towards you to make the cut? You have to remove the taper bar bearing, but it works well for me.
Josh

Yes i can do that but I don't always get the saw squared up right and it rubs one side of the cut and gets very hot.

I can't believe that you always get the saw square doing it the way you do...... I can't.

I want to square the saw to a hole in a piece of maple that is in the chuck and I cannot mount the router on a hightower to do that. You cannot bring the router down far enough to center in the chuck because the router hits the cross slide.

Kim

 

[conetip]

Yes i can do that but I don't always get the saw squared up right and it rubs one side of the cut and gets very hot.

I can't believe that you always get the saw square doing it the way you do...... I can't.

I want to square the saw to a hole in a piece of maple that is in the chuck and I cannot mount the router on a hightower to do that. You cannot bring the router down far enough to center in the chuck because the router hits the cross slide.

Kim

The blade only needs to be in alignment with the crosslide and the vertical plane of the lathe spindle axis. The centerline of the router does not need to be on center with the spindle axis. It can be higher,as long as the teeth pass the wall section being cut.It is two circular objects coming together.
The mount could be made with tennons or dowels to align to the crosslide when mounting to make a quick alignment.
You could mount the whole assembly onto a verical slide and wind down into the tube being cut.
Or you could use a low pressure/spring tension finger stylis indicator to indicate the sawblade with the run of the crosslide. I would not use a plunger type DTI as these have quite high stylis/spring pressure and could possibly damage the blade-depending on it's thickness.

Neil

 

[whammo57]

Hello Kim,

I had the same problem and have found this setup to work very well on my Deluxe Lathe. It is a little costly but makes cuting rings very easy. I use the KJ cutter and the porter cable (Dewalt) router with this mount:

http://k2cnc.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=RM-PC7310-Trimmer

Once everything is squared up it cuts rings like butter and so thin you can almost see through them if you want them that thin.

Damn ... that's the hair on the who haa........... i gotta get one

That looks like it will make set up easy.

Thanks

Kim

 

[juspooln]

I don't have the deluxe but this works well for me I just through it up there real quick I had the router on my vertical mount( I need more routers) but a picture much easier than me typing

 

[juspooln]

Busbee That mount is most defiantly the cat's pajamas :thumbup:

 

[cuemaker.mi]

I've seen the mounts on ebay that dremels thread into it and go into the tool post. would those be strong enough or is that why you all have routers? I have a Porper model B. The ones on here look great!

 

[whammo57]

I don't have the deluxe but this works well for me I just through it up there real quick I had the router on my vertical mount( I need more routers) but a picture much easier than me typing

That's an interesting method. I will investigate that .......

Don't leave the pin in the chuck. I might cause damage when you turn it on. Been there and done that. LOL

thanks

Kim

 

[juspooln]

I've seen the mounts on ebay that dremels thread into it and go into the tool post. would those be strong enough or is that why you all have routers? I have a Porper model B. The ones on here look great!

It works OK for Some woods and plastics But Phenolic Can Be a B%$#& Router defiantly the way to go

 

[juspooln]

That's an interesting method. I will investigate that .......

Don't leave the pin in the chuck. I might cause damage when you turn it on. Been there and done that. LOL

thanks

Kim

Me TOO


I can also use this mount to cut Billets and inlays with end mills:thumbup: