Beware of Brian Artrip (aka scruggsinhand)
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list of scumbags
sorry about your loss, mine was much smaller but it still sucks. lets start a thread with all these scumbags names and keep it bumped to the top of the forum forever. my loss was to joe duram from the chicago area. i know we cannot stop them, but it might slow them down if their name was on a wanted poster. chuck starkey
sorry about your loss, mine was much smaller but it still sucks. lets start a thread with all these scumbags names and keep it bumped to the top of the forum forever. my loss was to joe duram from the chicago area. i know we cannot stop them, but it might slow them down if their name was on a wanted poster. chuck starkey
hope things would turn good for everyone..
shinobi said:
I'd gave him the transaction the details, that's not the problem for me. The problem is he asked for my password so he can login to my PayPal account to check the transaction status.
By the way, Rack'em Zach'em (Zach), can you explain why you need my PayPal password?
justabrake said:
I did it 5 months ago. They forwarded the case to the Indiana Attorney General office. Somebody from the attorney general office then sent me a mail stating that the case will be closed shortly because "Brian promised that he will return my money". I haven't gotten the refund since they informed me and it's been 2 months.
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poolchady said:I did it 5 months ago. They forwarded the case to the Indiana Attorney General office. Somebody from the attorney general office then sent me a mail stating that the case will be closed shortly because "Brian promised that he will return my money". I haven't gotten the refund since they informed me and it's been 2 months.
Yeah but he is sorry and he did promise so all is well here... right?
If he gets caught lifting a candy bar the cops take him away but $1500 in the mail is somehow less of a crime. They take the clerks word for it that he stole the candy but hesitate when someone complains of being conned out of money. Strange system.. strange logic. Hard to see why you can't sign a complaint against him and have him arrested for a crime, just like the store clerk.
Since it was done by wire, I think that there is another federal crime called wire fraud. But do you want him in jail. He can't pay from there. He may already be there since no one has seen him.nick serdula said:I know this is unlikely but if you sent a USPs money order he will go to jail! The post office will see to it he is prosicuted. It would involve the U.S. mail and mail fraud if you used the USPS also.
I try to use every advantage I can when making payment to a person that I have never delt with and when they hear about this from the local post master they always make right.
I have a feeling none of this is any help.
Good luck
Nick
Usually when I do the transaction with strangers I ask them to send the cues to proficient billiards. I didn't take the escrew this time because I trust guys on AZ. AZ is like a big family for me. I've been selling and buying cues on eBay for a few years and I never got burned. It's such a disappointment.
poolchady said:
Chady,
Very sorry to hear about this bad deal. I feel the same way and to me it's unfathomable that people engage in this kind of bad behavior where you get outed really quick. The more I see deals on here take these kinds of turns, it's very scary. I still like to think the best in my fellow man, but this kind of thing makes it very difficult.
JV
Chady
If he agreed to pay and didn't he has commited a bigger crime than he was facing. He basicly made a false statement. No biggie? Not when you do it when a court official is involved. Contact the D.A..
Let them know your status and they will have a few ways to proceed including processing your payment and charging him for the privelage!
Good Luck!
Nick
If he agreed to pay and didn't he has commited a bigger crime than he was facing. He basicly made a false statement. No biggie? Not when you do it when a court official is involved. Contact the D.A..
Let them know your status and they will have a few ways to proceed including processing your payment and charging him for the privelage!
Good Luck!
Nick
cuedoctor said:As long as big armed John adds his personal TOUCH to the collection process then 40% is well worth it. If possible have him post before and after photos of this theif
I don't think I'd ever want to get on the bad side of this "Big Armed John" without even seeing him. lol.
NYC cue dude
Banned
the DA can reopen a case as easily as it closes one. Write a letter to the official who told you that the case was going to be closed based ont the "pending promise of payment". Ask that the case be reopened. Provide ALL the details, dates and copies of all contact with the thief. Also include the wire transfer info.
Send the letter with a return receipt request. Once you have been notified that the official has recieved your letter, follow it up with a phobne call. Don't forget to include all scruggs' personal info. Let them know that you went through an "expense" in getting this info.
There are many legal issues here. It is sounding more and more like a federal case. Wire fraud, intiated over the internet IS a FELONY. I also blieve that because there are other victims (also submit the entire thread and circle other complaining victims for them).
Gently INSIST that after all this time, that law enforcement MUST act, as they have been put on written notice the ongoing threat to the general public is still very real.
hope this helps
rg
Send the letter with a return receipt request. Once you have been notified that the official has recieved your letter, follow it up with a phobne call. Don't forget to include all scruggs' personal info. Let them know that you went through an "expense" in getting this info.
There are many legal issues here. It is sounding more and more like a federal case. Wire fraud, intiated over the internet IS a FELONY. I also blieve that because there are other victims (also submit the entire thread and circle other complaining victims for them).
Gently INSIST that after all this time, that law enforcement MUST act, as they have been put on written notice the ongoing threat to the general public is still very real.
hope this helps
rg
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