BH grip pressure?

EZMoney

EZMoney

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What is the correct amount of grip pressure that should be applied when cueing the rock? I've noticed what I will call "the cradle hold" which the cue lays in the fingers and is only embraced by the palm at the moment of contact. Then others I see have their knuckles on the BH turning white from the extra pressure.

I tend to think that a firm grip delivers a more controled shot. What your prospective?
 
I might like my women as tight as possible, but my grip is loosy goosy all day long.

The Key is a relaxed grip can deliver the cue precisely and with power when needed.
 
As I have learned from Randy G, zero pressure needs to be applied. My cue actually slides about 1/2" inch forward in my hand each time I shoot regular speed shots. The cue actually just rests in my middle and ring finger. When my shot is complete, I can feel the cue in the palm of my hand.

My cue naturally moves straight to the cue ball because my wrist and grip are not locked. Being tight also reduces the amount of forward "flow" of the cue.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
It should be precisely 3.4 PSI increased to 22.7 PSI right after contact. If you can't do this, you won't be able to make a ball.
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You forgot one very important figure. How much your butt is puckered based on the difficulty of the shot divided by the importance of the shot. Pucker factor is a crucial measurement, which can be measured with a walnut. For some people it can only be measured with a coconut...but I digress.
 
NewStroke said:
You forgot one very important figure. How much your butt is puckered based on the difficulty of the shot divided by the importance of the shot. Pucker factor is a crucial measurement, which can be measured with a walnut. For some people it can only be measured with a coconut...but I digress.
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I just fart regardless of difficulty.
 
I've heard to use the same presure of holding a paper cup, simple. This coming from a C player. Just a though.:smile:
 
If you have a tight or semi-tight grip, can you grip the cue exactly the same tightness every time? It's really hard to be exactly *THIS* tight every time.

On the other hand, if you're relaxed, and aren't gripping the cue, but rather letting it lay in your hand, *THIS* is repeatable and very consistent.

Another 'upside' to having the relaxed grip, is you immediately know when you're not and the reason you either missed the shot, or the CB didn't do what you were expecting it to do.

The last upside from the relaxed grip is what your cue will be able to do. When you grip the cue, you're robbing it of what it's designed to do. Transfer energy to the CB. With a tight grip, some of that energy will transfer to your grip and arm, and not to the CB.

As always.. this is free advice and you're welcome to do with it what you will. Good luck to you with what ever you decide.
 
skip said:
I've heard to use the same presure of holding a paper cup, simple. This coming from a C player. Just a though.:smile:
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Something like that. I would describe it more like holding a bird in your hand. Not too much pressure to hurt it, but just enough to keep it from flying away.
 
It depends on the shot really. When i shoot a break shot or a big jump shot (no jump cue) i tend to grip the butt a bit harder. That sounded great btw :lol:

On stroke shots definitely a more gentle grip. As long as your stroke is straight and on line you can hold the back how ever you like really.
 
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NewStroke said:
As I have learned from Randy G, zero pressure needs to be applied. My cue actually slides about 1/2" inch forward in my hand each time I shoot regular speed shots. The cue actually just rests in my middle and ring finger. When my shot is complete, I can feel the cue in the palm of my hand.

My cue naturally moves straight to the cue ball because my wrist and grip are not locked. Being tight also reduces the amount of forward "flow" of the cue.
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It seems IMHO that if one used a loosee goosee pressure and regripped at the moment of impact that the cue would add extra torque on the CB or unwanted spin.

In the Oct/Nov issue of Professor-Q-Ball's intitaled So you want Consistency in your Game by The Monk, he states "you need a good grip. A firm grip. If your grip changes, even the slightest, it will change the shot. So we must master a firm grip."

I'm supprised that most here seem to employ the loosee goosee grip. I've tried the firm grip method and it seem to have meritt. Is there any other frim grippers out there?
 
EZMoney said:
It seems IMHO that if one used a loosee goosee pressure and regripped at the moment of impact that the cue would add extra torque on the CB or unwanted spin.

In the Oct/Nov issue of Professor-Q-Ball's intitaled So you want Consistency in your Game by The Monk, he states "you need a good grip. A firm grip. If your grip changes, even the slightest, it will change the shot. So we must master a firm grip."

I'm supprised that most here seem to employ the loosee goosee grip. I've tried the firm grip method and it seem to have meritt. Is there any other frim grippers out there?
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That may work for some but I can assure you that if I grip the cue too tight, I am going miss the shot. If I make the shot then I'll most likely miss the leave. Loosening my grip got me over a huge learning curve.
 
skip said:
I've heard to use the same presure of holding a paper cup, simple. This coming from a C player. Just a though.:smile:
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That's what I am also.

But, the best advice I ever had on grip came from Jeanette Lee ... hold the cue as tight as you would hold a baby bird.

LWW
 
LWW said:
That's what I am also.

But, the best advice I ever had on grip came from Jeanette Lee ... hold the cue as tight as you would hold a baby bird.

LWW
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Damn, the last baby bird I held, it's head popped off. :(
 
EZMoney said:
It seems IMHO that if one used a loosee goosee pressure and regripped at the moment of impact that the cue would add extra torque on the CB or unwanted spin.

In the Oct/Nov issue of Professor-Q-Ball's intitaled So you want Consistency in your Game by The Monk, he states "you need a good grip. A firm grip. If your grip changes, even the slightest, it will change the shot. So we must master a firm grip."

I'm supprised that most here seem to employ the loosee goosee grip. I've tried the firm grip method and it seem to have meritt. Is there any other frim grippers out there?
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I believe that the Monk is half right. It all starts with a perfect grip (Cradle)....SPF=randyg
 
soft hands.

grab a full tube of toothpaste thats open, if any comes out your holding it too tight.

when im touring, with mark cantrill, i will also show people the "V"
 
lee brett said:
soft hands.

grab a full tube of toothpaste thats open, if any comes out your holding it too tight.

when im touring, with mark cantrill, i will also show people the "V"
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I have to ask, what exactly do you squeeze when touring with Mark Cantrill? He is a bit of an odd duck. :grin:
 
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