I was thinking the same thing. Probably a distributor.
Big corporate sponsors testing the water with pool again???
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I was thinking the same thing. Probably a distributor.
Even if it's the local distributor or bottling agent, Snookers is doing something right that is attracting and keeping non-pool sponsors.
I think a good player can tell how good someone plays within half a level by watching one set. You can tell their shot selection and knowledge. For example, in a weekly tournament a couple of new players wanted to enter, we go from 3-6 and one of they was saying he should be a 3. He shot a inside english cut shot off a sharp angle during one of the games he played and was playing position not by accident, he knew where the ball was going. I made him a 5, he came in 3rd as a 5.
If I see you play a race to 7 or a few of them, I may not figure out how consistent you are day to day or week to week, but I will be able to figure out your handicap to within half a level. There are shots and position patterns that only a certain skill level can see and execute.
This is why I like the Fargo system, it not only keeps track of all your events and also keeps track of the events the people you played against and how you did against them. Lukas is a 620 (I know because he signed up for a tournament I am playing in and it shows the Fargo ratings for each player), I am a B+, I would not consider myself lower since I can run out a rack pretty well, with the only thing stopping me is a single bad position shot in most racks to run out even more racks. I also feel like I can read the table well and I know how to hit a number of more advanced shots. I am a 560 now in Fargo, I maybe should be a 580 with a few more games in since last time Fargo tracked me well was almost 2 years ago. A 620 is better than me, so would be an A- or an A depending on the day. The person that won was also in there as a B and is a 633 in Fargo, also an A level.
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I still think there is plenty of room for subjectivity. The people who gave this kid his rating clearly think differently of this kid's abilities or they'd be cheating, right? Not singling out your opinion at all, but everyone thinks they know how to handicap people and they disagree all the time.
Agreed! Everyone has an opinion of someone elses speed and it's never the same. In terms of A, B, C players there is also a wide range within each class. A low B would look at a high B like they were an A and so on. You see it all the time and hear the whining.
It usually gets to me when someone in the "B" division complains about everyone who is better than them being in the same division. Someone has to be the best "B" player.
Fargo ratings and results in tournaments and against who are not subjective. You think a B player will finish top 8 in an even race tournament of 1,000 even if they played out of their brains for a few matches? Or win a Predator tour stop? Which also would disqualify someone from playing right there.
I don't know who decided the handicaps there but they were wrong in many cases. Anyone over a Fargo of 600 is getting to the A- level of play, not just a B+ that happened to play well that day.
You won't get me to agree that handicaps aren't subjective but I believe Ray Mac handled the handicaps for this tournament so it wouldn't surprise me if they were out of whack. He did in 2010 when I qualified as a B and Easy qualified as an A. I'll tell you, I thought he was crazy making me a B and still do. I may have won an entry that day into the event but I still believe I was a C based on the competition. I was playing C players that I play even in league but that day, because Ray said I was a B, was spotting them games. Oh well. To me it was about the fun and the challenge to qualify as something I didn't believe myself to be. Point is, it's never going to be perfect so just get up there and play and let the chips fall where they may. No sense crying over spilled milk or perceived unfair handicaps.
Like Bill Belichick likes to say..."It is what it is"
You won't get me to agree that handicaps aren't subjective but I believe Ray Mac handled the handicaps for this tournament so it wouldn't surprise me if they were out of whack. He did in 2010 when I qualified as a B and Easy qualified as an A. I'll tell you, I thought he was crazy making me a B and still do. I may have won an entry that day into the event but I still believe I was a C based on the competition. I was playing C players that I play even in league but that day, because Ray said I was a B, was spotting them games. Oh well. To me it was about the fun and the challenge to qualify as something I didn't believe myself to be. Point is, it's never going to be perfect so just get up there and play and let the chips fall where they may. No sense crying over spilled milk or perceived unfair handicaps.
Like Bill Belichick likes to say..."It is what it is"
To qualify as a B you would have had to beat 3-4 B players playing even. It's not easy to do that as a C, you would have had to play very well as well as get lucky. In 2010, could you run 5-6 balls with ball in hand in 9 ball?
If you were playing C players there you normally play equal to, but you were put in as B, that probably meant that they should have played as B players also not that you were ranked too high. I had this same issue in the other local tours we have, in non-handicapped tournaments I lose to players playing even, then when I play them in handicapped tournaments, they are ranked lower than me LOL I quit playing those tournament, I value fairness and don't need the hassle. There are a dozen other places to play in, I don't need to bring my money to someone that can't rank players. I went with my son to a tournament and there were two players that I noticed right away were ranked wrong, one was a 2, the other was a 4, in a single game of watching them play I thought "they should be a rank higher". That 2 and 4 finished 1st and second in the tournament. Not much of a surprise to me.
This is exactly what happens in the Bud tournament, just about every top finisher in every year was either an Open playing as an A or some other handicap under-ranked. And pretty clearly also. I think Nelson won that thing, so did RayMac, they are both Open players, over an A.
I don't care who wins, but I do care about how they win or what enables them to win.
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sponsor this!
Pool should be sponsored by a Dildo factory.
Pool should be sponsored by a Dildo factory.
You think pool players will buy a dildo? Not a chance. They'd just complain that the dildos are too expensive. I'd play.
No idea, but it would be hard to imagine a distributor could freely use company name and sponsor whatever they want - especially in this day and age !
All depends on legal separation from the main company, and a distributor has that ability because they're selling the product therefore their representation stop with them and does not pass on to the main company.
As u know, that's a VERY VERY fine line.. I see folks around my area, and when they use a big Corp name they always say brought to you by mid Atlantic bud distribution ......etc etc . There was none of that here on this tourney