biggest improvement in pool equipment
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It's amazing that no one would even think about giving credit to Diamond for building a coin operated pool table that plays like a real pool table, therefore ending Valley's rain over the coin op industry world wide....figures
I'll stick with valley and gold crown - just prefer them to diamond for some reason.
I want to like Diamonds but i think its probably due to too many years on the others.
Love your work by the way, thank god for you and Mark raising the bar to perfection.
ElCorazonFrio
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It's amazing that no one would even think about giving credit to Diamond for building a coin operated pool table that plays like a real pool table, therefore ending Valley's rain over the coin op industry world wide....figures
Their non-coin op tables barely play like real pool tables.
And the word is 'reign'
I was wondering when you would contribute your usual little ray of sunshine to the discussion.
Ignore function, activate!
But your preferred choice of tables to play on has nothing to do with the original question does it, I mean Valley hasn't changed the way their pool tables work in over 30+ years and Brunswick has basically given up on the commercial industry....so what do either one of them bring to the table today?
So, if I take the rails off a Diamond coin op, and put them on a non coin op ProAm, that'll make the ProAm play like a real pool table...is that what you're saying?
So.....the leather tip is new? 2 piece cues are new? Diamond is new? Chalk is new?
AND, as you can clearly see - I responded to YOUR post.
BTW, it is reign as someone else pointed out. I didn't mention that in my post cause i wasn't being a dick, I even complimented you on your work.
Have a nice day
Brunswick rules!
For me the biggest improvement over 15 years ago (when I first picked up a cue) to today (when I'm playing regularly pool and carom) is:
- Blue Diamond chalk (I was so relieved when there was no Masters anymore)
- Tiger Sniper / Onyx tips (while overpriced they do their job so well)
- composite shafts, that are and stay consistent and do not warp at all (cf guitar necks)
- proper low squirt engineered shafts (I like to hit where I aim)
- mass market supplying high quality cues at sensible prices for beginners that like to use good equipment right from the start (yes, cuetec)
- spotted white (see what you're actually spinning)
- magic rack (breaking is much more fun)
- carom tables' cushions (they are fantastic)
Cheers!
- Blue Diamond chalk (I was so relieved when there was no Masters anymore)
- Tiger Sniper / Onyx tips (while overpriced they do their job so well)
- composite shafts, that are and stay consistent and do not warp at all (cf guitar necks)
- proper low squirt engineered shafts (I like to hit where I aim)
- mass market supplying high quality cues at sensible prices for beginners that like to use good equipment right from the start (yes, cuetec)
- spotted white (see what you're actually spinning)
- magic rack (breaking is much more fun)
- carom tables' cushions (they are fantastic)
Cheers!
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Do you mean Brunswick has thrown in the white flag in regards to competing with Diamond, or with the presence of so many used Gold Crowns, pool rooms are no longer interested in purchasing new GC's?
What would be the names of those good cloths that were around for hundreds of years so I can research them and educate myself? What was the name of the quality cloth you remember playing on long ago?
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I was kind of wondering that as well, because Simonis has been around for about the last 330+ years.
With this sport as a whole. When was the last time you ever heard of Brunswick supplying pool tables to a pool tournament?
You didn't read the post that started this thread....did you, because it's pretty clear you though this thread was about supporting your favorite pool table thread. Yeah, Brunswick rules alright.....the used table market, because they're not ruling in the new table industry any more!
The title to the thread should have been a dead give away, "the biggest improvement in pool equipment" as it was understood by those who've posted so far, well....except for you that is
For me the biggest equipment improvement has been the Diamond table. I bought a used Brunswick Gold Crown around 1982 (sorry to the pool room owners) so I could play at home and save money. It was the bomb. I went to Arizona two years ago to play an old friend I hadn't seen in 20+ years. He suggested a pool room to go shoot, and said "they have Diamond tables". He was stunned when I said "never heard of them, aren't there any Gold Crowns around?". We went there and played on a Diamond 9'. It took me less then 5 minutes to realize I have to get out more. These tables, to me, far surpassed my GC in every way. Flat rails, no lip pockets, rails that seemed more true, etc. My only complaint was, at 6'5, I slammed my head on the Diamond overhead light. When I returned to Chicago, l looked at my beloved GC and thought I can't wait to get a Diamond and I really have to get out more!
ElCorazonFrio
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I'm the opposite. I started playing seriously on Centennials and Anniversarys. The place I played then got GC's.
Every time I have to play on a diamond, my enjoyment is cut in half.
Basically the rails on every other decent table play similar to each other with diamonds being way different.
I will concede that it is cool that they figured out the optical ball return...but that doesn't really affect me as the last time I played serious pool with a heavy cueball was...probably fifteen years ago.
You know what they say about you old people don't you?....you won't be complaining much longer:thumbup: Not everyone wants change, just don't stand in front of those that do
Ok, I see that you're right. They have been around for a long time. I don't know what type of cloth they made back then but we weren't using it on pool tables in the States until recent decades.
Then I should qualify my comment by saying specifically Simonis 860.