Black King Tips

Black King Tips

Black King Tips

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Totally New Black King Tips Are Here!

My name is Robert Wong and I have been a pool player, league operator, retail store owner, wholesale billiards product distributor, cue repairman and inventor of many billiard products. (Cue-Tools.com)

With over 20 years of experience installing and playing with every type of tip on the market I still would not consider myself to be an expert on billiard cue tips. So, I sought out the experts and together we have created Black King Tips.

With all of the brands and types of tips on the market you may ask why we decided to introduce yet another tip to the industry. We all hear so much about humidity, porosity, tanning, aging, laminating, technology, deflection and all the other things people selling tips tell you are the reasons to buy their tips. At Black King Tips we are taking a different approach. We could write several pages on why we think you should play with our tips. We could go on and on and use terminology from science journals to describe our tips but instead we prefer to LET OUR TIPS DO THE TALKING. Just hit a ball with one....you're a pool player like me....not a scientist or physics professor. It doesn't matter what we tell you about the tip. All that matters is whether you like to play with it! For years one of the best playing tips in the world was simply a pressed Elkmaster. Nobody ever mentioned the tanning process, hardness rating, porosity or any other marketing research approved sales pitch! Every pool player in the know used it because it played good...period! Since it has become so hard to find an Elkmaster tip that doesn't fall apart as soon as you try to trim it, players have been searching for the next Holy Grail of cue tips. Are Black King Tips it? You decide. However, we are so confident that you will love them that we offer an unconditional 100% money back guarantee! If for any reason you don't like it. Just send it back and we will give you a full refund....It's that easy. Don't you think every humidity resistant, low deflection, technologically advanced, aged, specially tanned, laminated tip should offer the same guarantee?? Well, sorry to say....they don't.

So choose Black King Tips and Rule Your Game!

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Special pricing available for Cuemakers, Installers, Dealers and Distributors

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Sounds interesting. Please post a thread in the for sale section with pricing and where to go to purchase these.

And welcome to the forum. FYI, most of the more respected vendors on this site buy a club membership to show their support for the forum. Good luck with your new line.;)
 
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DogsPlayingPool said:
Sounds interesting. Please post a thread in the for sale section with pricing and where to go to purchase these.

And welcome to the forum. FYI, most of the more respected vendors on this site buy a club membership to show their support for the forum. Good luck with your new line.;)
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I will purchase the club membership ASAP.... Thanks for the info!
 
Black King Tips said:
I will purchase the club membership ASAP.... Thanks for the info!
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No problem. It's not mandatory or anything, it's just good business. I know it's one of the things I look for.

I look forward to your thread in the for sale forum. I'm about to start trying different tips so you may just have caught me at the right time. ;)
 
Its just my opinion, but $19 a whack for a new, unproven tip might be kind of hard to swallow for a lot of people. I put a lot of tips on, and most people use cheap tips like lepros, but if they want a more expensive (notice I did not say better) tip, they will usually get a kamui. With that said, it will be hard to get them to pay more for a tip they never heard of.

Joe
 
snipershot said:
Its just my opinion, but $19 a whack for a new, unproven tip might be kind of hard to swallow for a lot of people. I put a lot of tips on, and most people use cheap tips like lepros, but if they want a more expensive (notice I did not say better) tip, they will usually get a kamui. With that said, it will be hard to get them to pay more for a tip they never heard of.

Joe
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I was originally the first US distributor for Moori when I managed Best Billiards back in the early 90's and everyone had sticker shock when we said they would cost $20 installed... once they played with one they didn't blink to pay the price. Same thing happened with Kamui. I am offering a 100% Money Back guarentee! Try it...if you don't think it's worth the cost cut it off, send it back for a full refund! Who ever thought someone would pay $30 for a cube of unproven chalk??? Ask around...everyone that have tried them love them. If you are a cuemaker or an installer...PM me I have an offer you can't refuse :)
 
snipershot said:
Its just my opinion, but $19 a whack for a new, unproven tip might be kind of hard to swallow for a lot of people. I put a lot of tips on, and most people use cheap tips like lepros, but if they want a more expensive (notice I did not say better) tip, they will usually get a kamui. With that said, it will be hard to get them to pay more for a tip they never heard of.

Joe
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Joe, my price is $18.95 shipped.
There is a discount if you buy the tube of 12 including free shipping. Pm me if you want to give it a shot.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
No problem. It's not mandatory or anything, it's just good business. I know it's one of the things I look for.

I look forward to your thread in the for sale forum. I'm about to start trying different tips so you may just have caught me at the right time. ;)
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Where can I get a link to purchase the club membership? I can't find it :(
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
So you've been installing these tips? I'd love to hear some feedback on how they play, especially the medium and soft tips.
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Good question.
I have been playing with the medium for the last 6/7 weeks and I really like it.

Not trying to BS anybody but the the medium reminds me the old Mooris but with better response and grip on the ball. Easy to draw, no mushroom thus far but I am only playing twice a week.

It was a good surprise. I haven't tried the soft yet but I installed a couple of them and had no complains at all. The players only asked me... "What tip is this?"... Not hype... Try it and you'll see.

Like Robert said, is it the Holy Grail? Don't no, it is up to the players to decide. I do like the tip a lot, like I said before.

As far as installation is concerned, cuts extremely well and burnishes even better. No so resistant to the blade when you flush it to the ferrule like a Kamui. More like the old Mooris used to cut.
 
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Black King Tips said:
we are so confident that you will love them that we offer an unconditional 100% money back guarantee! If for any reason you don't like it. Just send it back and we will give you a full refund....It's that easy.
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You'll probably have a lot of people on here take you up on this. I'll be curious to see the reports.

This is just me, and I am being redundant here, but I don't see the amount of leather you are giving and the price point in a reasonable ballpark. Forgive me, because I don't know anything about this tip, it could have gold dust sprinkled on it for all I know, but I don't like this price trend I see coming for tips. I mean, they are essentially a 1 gram piece of leather. Maybe i'm just stuck in the past. Best of luck :)
 
Guerra Cues said:
Good question.
I have been playing with the medium for the last 6/7 weeks and I really like it.

Not trying to BS anybody but the the medium reminds me the old Mooris but with better response and grip on the ball. Easy to draw, no mushroom thus far but I am only playing twice a week.

It was a good surprise. I haven't tried the soft yet but I installed a couple of them and had no complains at all. The players only asked me... "What tip is this?"... Not hype... Try it and you'll see.

Like Robert said, is it the Holy Grail? Don't no, it is up to the players to decide. I do like the tip a lot, like I said before.
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How often do you have to scruff it and has it shown any signs of glazing? How would you compare the hardness to a Moori M? I play a Moori M but am thinking of trying a softer tip like an Elkmaster. I'd be interested to hear how the soft BK's play compared to the medium.

BTW, is this a layered tip? If so, how many layers? I'd also be interested to know about longevity, though you probably don't have an answer for that yet.

I guess what I'm saying is ff I play a Moori M and am thinking of going to something a little softer for a bit more spin and draw, would you recommend the BK medium or the BK soft? Black King, what would you say?
 
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DogsPlayingPool said:
How often do you have to scruff it and has it shown any signs of glazing? How would you compare the hardness to a Moori M? I play a Moori M but am thinking of trying a softer tip like an Elkmaster. I'd be interested to hear how the soft BK's play compared to the medium.

BTW, is this a layered tip? If so, how many layers? I'd also be interested to know about longevity, though you probably don't have an answer for that yet.
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Hard to compare hardness, feels like a true medium but does have a different feel than a Moori. No glazing thus far. I would say the tip medium is a just little tad softer.
 
The Chinchilla said:
You'll probably have a lot of people on here take you up on this. I'll be curious to see the reports.

This is just me, and I am being redundant here, but I don't see the amount of leather you are giving and the price point in a reasonable ballpark. Forgive me, because I don't know anything about this tip, it could have gold dust sprinkled on it for all I know, but I don't like this price trend I see coming for tips. I mean, they are essentially a 1 gram piece of leather. Maybe i'm just stuck in the past. Best of luck :)
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They used to say "Chalk is free" but people are paying $30+ for a cube of Kamui chalk. If it was just a hunk of leather like a LePro it would cost .50 cents like a LePro. This is 9 layers of premium hand selected pigskin leather. Each layer has to be split to a thickness of less than 1 mm. I could go on and on about leather and laminating but I prefer to let the tips to the talking. Try one if you don't think it's worth the money...send it back and I will give you a 100% refund. No other tip manufacturer in the world is that confident of their product.
 
HOSS22 said:
ok whats up with the tan backing on the glue side?
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It's not actually a backing it is the same hardness as the other layers. We added the natural colored bottom layer because we don't want anyone ever mistaking a Black King Tip for any other tip on the market. It is sort of our signature or trademark.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
How often do you have to scruff it and has it shown any signs of glazing? How would you compare the hardness to a Moori M? I play a Moori M but am thinking of trying a softer tip like an Elkmaster. I'd be interested to hear how the soft BK's play compared to the medium.

BTW, is this a layered tip? If so, how many layers? I'd also be interested to know about longevity, though you probably don't have an answer for that yet.

I guess what I'm saying is ff I play a Moori M and am thinking of going to something a little softer for a bit more spin and draw, would you recommend the BK medium or the BK soft? Black King, what would you say?
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I have played with a BK Medium for over 6 months now while testing the tip before releasing it to the public. It has not mushroomed or moved at all. I have shaped it only once. I scuff it before every league match and that's it.

If you have a good stroke and have no problem drawing your ball with the Moori M then I would say use the BK M. You may find with any tip that the softer you go you can get a little more spin or grip on soft or close shots but if you have to hit a power shot with 6 feet between the cueball and object ball... soft tips absorb some of the impact and you lose some of the spin. IMHO
 
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