Bocote or Cocobolo ??

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Seems like every year about this time I get the itch for a new cue.
It dont make sense as I have several nice cues already but I am sure there are some of you that can understand this crazyness.

Anyhow, I really like the look of two woods. Cocobola and Bocote.
Between the two is their anything I need to be aware of before choosing which wood to go with? Do cuemakers have a preference as to which one they would rather make into a cue?
I like the looks of highly figured wood but does straight grain wood make a better playing cue?
 
Bocote is much more stable.
You can have done in a month.
Hits better too. No need to core.
 
chokenstroke said:
Seems like every year about this time I get the itch for a new cue.
It dont make sense as I have several nice cues already but I am sure there are some of you that can understand this crazyness.

Anyhow, I really like the look of two woods. Cocobola and Bocote.
Between the two is their anything I need to be aware of before choosing which wood to go with? Do cuemakers have a preference as to which one they would rather make into a cue?
I like the looks of highly figured wood but does straight grain wood make a better playing cue?
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Bocote and cocobolo come from the same family. Bocote usually has more figure and cocobolo has much more color. Cocobolo is more oily. They both are very solid woods that hit good but bocote probably gives a little better hit. I believe that straight grained woods give the best hit. This is one of the reasons that I core almost all my cues, even maple ones.
Dick
 
bocote

chokenstroke said:
Seems like every year about this time I get the itch for a new cue.
It dont make sense as I have several nice cues already but I am sure there are some of you that can understand this crazyness.

Anyhow, I really like the look of two woods. Cocobola and Bocote.
Between the two is their anything I need to be aware of before choosing which wood to go with? Do cuemakers have a preference as to which one they would rather make into a cue?
I like the looks of highly figured wood but does straight grain wood make a better playing cue?
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Happy, I can "NOT" have a bocote cue done in a month. I will not rush mother nature. I just don't turn-cut woods and say it's READY. To me this is wrong. Mother nature tells me when to machine what she has supplied me with.It takes time to build a quality cue, no matter what woods are being used..

Sorry, Joey, I just differ from your thoughts, sir.

I prefer bocote over "ALL" other woods, because of the feed-back it produces when you hit the cue ball. In my opinion, it's got the best feel, FOR FEELING THE CUE-BALL.

I will build what you want in a cue, but when it comes to the integerty of my cues, I know best for my style of cues.
blud
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blud seems to echo what i've heard now from two other cuemakers, including joey gold who was a very strong player,,,,,,that they are VERY in love with bocote. joey described the hit as very sharp, and i'm translating that to what blud said about "feeling" the cb. i personally have never had enough time with bocote except for about 5 minutes of play. i will say it felt very dense and dry, and maybe the dryness allowed for that "feel",,,,as southwest cues hit very dry and have lots of feel.

and personally, i can't stand cocobola,,,,have said it many times. it fells "thuddy" and damp, like a compressed, wet telephone book. maybe it's the "oiliness" that rhncue mentions.

btw,,,i've seen some very ugly bocote. if you choose it, get the very tight grained stuff with the golden veins running through it.
 
question to the cuemakers.....

how light(weight) can you get a cue with a bocote nose and fiddleback prongs/light shafts, without coring? thanks
 
The latest cue that I bought is bocote. I told the cuemaker I was interested in a good solid playing cue. He recommended it. It is by far the best feel and sounding cue that I have played with.
 
Cocobola will not transmit near as much energy as most woods, that's why it's very popular in pistol grips.

LWW
 
Are you guys talking about the woods as a forearm, points, or either?
Would it make a big difference in the hit if you use either coco or bocote for points into a maple forearm or is it less likely to affect the hit?

Thanks,
Koop
 
Used just in points I think the difference would be very minimal, but I'm not a cuemaker by trade.

LWW
 
Bacote or Cocobolo?

chokenstroke said:
Seems like every year about this time I get the itch for a new cue.
It dont make sense as I have several nice cues already but I am sure there are some of you that can understand this crazyness.

Anyhow, I really like the look of two woods. Cocobola and Bocote.
Between the two is their anything I need to be aware of before choosing which wood to go with? Do cuemakers have a preference as to which one they would rather make into a cue?
I like the looks of highly figured wood but does straight grain wood make a better playing cue?
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I prefer the hit of the Bacote & use a lot of it, BUT I never met a Cocobolo cue that I didn't love. I just counted & have 45, 30" pieces of Bacote in stock. If you want lighter weight, ask for the lightest colored pieces,(in my opinion the prettiest). The heavier grained pieces, are also the heaviest in weight...JER
 
There must be different types of bocote. Mine is made out of Mexican Bocote and the cuemaker said that most cuemakers don't like using it because it is too oily and they don't know how to work with it. Is this true?
 
skchengdds said:
Which piece looks best???

http://www.galynx.com/jolney/pic_2_prongs_large.htm

I would think that none of these "need" to be cored.

sherwin
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Oh My Sherwin, that is some fine looking birdseye you have there!
I bet you are holding that for a real special cue.

Between the Cocobolo and the Bocote you show in your photo I like the looks of the Bocote best. It has more figuring than the Cocobolo piece.
From the feedback from the cuemakers here it looks like Bocote wins hands down as the better choice for playability.

A nicely figured Bocote Bludworth cue inlayed with his great looking squid design in the buttsleeve. Should it have a purpleheart unwraped handle?
Is Bludworth still using that red dot in the buttcap?
I always liked that little red dot.
 
bocote!

Just to throw in my .03 here... Bocote is usually the better playing wood, though it is hard to find things that look good as inlays or points in it. Find a piece of Bocote with really tight, straight grain. Turn the piece in your hands. On one side there shopuld be more of a grain pattern. If you turn the piece 180deg. this same pattern should be on the other side. If it is as I desrcibed, it will almost guaranteeably make a great hittting cue. As far as inlaying Bocote for points/etc... won;t make much difference... what's the core???
 
cheese_ball said:
As far as inlaying Bocote for points/etc... won;t make much difference... what's the core???
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Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
Seems we are talking about these woods being used as forearms and I wasn't sure if there would be any noticable difference if used for points.

Regards,
Koop
 
That side grain of the bacote is hot looking, however I would take the maple second from the right with some most excellent cocobolo points...
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