Books vs Videos & I'm taking a lesson w/ Scott

TimFXF

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This relates to the Books & Video vs. lessons thread that turned into something, if not ugly, then unseemly. I thought we might start fresh here.

Before I talk about the lesson, I'd like to give my 2 cents on the original subject. I started playing pool over a year ago. I got some “instruction” from a friend who played way better then the rest of us who played on the little bar box that we played on. I got a table of my own and then I got into the books and tapes (or DVD’s). I have to say that my first resource was the Dave Alciatore (Dr. Dave) book “The Illustrated Principals of Pool and Billiards”. The best thing about that book was that he has online streaming videos of the different principals on his omnipresent website. Real meat and potatos for me and my wife. It started the ball rolling... Since then I like the 99 shots, 8 ball bible, but most of all I am getting the most out of the Byrne books and DVD’s. Byrne’s “Standard Book of Pool and Billiards” will keep me reading for years. Mostly because of my fascination with three cushion billiards, which is the second half of the book. I can't recommend the Byrne DVD's enough to beginners (like me)!

Having said that - onto the subtext... I made an appointment to have a lesson (my first lesson with anyone) with Scott Lee next month in the NJ/NY area. The reason I picked Scott was because, after reading this and a couple of “other” pool/billiard message boards, I found that he is what I wanted from my game... consistent. He seems a rational voice of reason to the technical questions that come up on the boards. He is also not afraid to voice an opinion. Sometimes he’s not afraid to ruffle a feather or two. (I am leery of those that ruffle feathers on the web, but it’s my instinct that Scott does it sparingly and for good reason.) AND – contrary to what Jessiedoll seemed to be intimating on the earlier thread - I never felt he was a shameless self-promoter. (I know she didn't say that, but, let's face it, that was the inference.)

Time will tell what my lesson with Scott will bring. An awareness of my natural stroke is what I'm hoping for, but there's no guarantee. I know from my golf experience that lessons are a funny thing... At my best, I had a 4 handicap, but the biggest improvement came when I got a really good instructor to nail "my" stroke - not just give me "his" stroke. Oh, go to the putting green more and the driving range less helps too... From reading Scott's posts over the past year, he sounds like my kind of instructor.

Tim

PS... I gather from his posts and my brief conversation with him on the phone - that he wouldn't promote himself in this way. So, allow me... Anyone can PM me if they are interested in when and where Scott will be in the middle of March. You are welcome to his instruction... AFTER I'm done!
 
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I'll say it again, money well spent. He's very easy to work with, and will identify flaws in your stroke and show you how to fix them.
I will have to catch him next time around. Too close to the gov't raping I'm going to take on 4/15. I need to conserve the cash for butt lube...:eek:
Seriously, I took my lesson around Thanksgiving of last year, and still haven't digested all of the things he showed me.

Shamelessly Promoting Scott Lee...

McCue Banger McCue
 
Tim,
I have had the pleasure of teaching classes with Scott. He is one of the best instructors around. Rest assured, if you are looking for consistancy in your stroke and in your game, Scott is going to help you find it.
You made a good decision.
Steve
 
This is money well spent. Scott is one of the best in the Country. Good choice.

After you spend your time with Scott why not report back to us the difference between book learning and hands on....SPF=randyg
 
Tim...Looking forward to working with you, and everyone else who has scheduled time with me. See you next month! There are still a few slots open, if anyone is interested (March 9-11, Boston; March 12, CT; March 13-14, NJ/NYC; March 15-18, Valley Forge; March 19-23 Baltimore/Wash. DC; March 24-25, Richmond/Va. Beach; March 26, Eastern NC; March 27-28 Western NC; March 29, SC; March 30-31, Tallahassee FL; April 1-7, Clearwater FL).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
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Books vs Videos vs Lessons

IMHO, Lessons (on a personal level) are by far the best instruction if you can afford the $$$ and the time.....that said, Books are great because you can read them at you leisure (anywhere) in the Bahamas or wherever; Videos are very nice because you can practice and watch the instructor show you the strokes, etc. while your at a table ;) (at our place)!?

I have read a few (maybe alot) of the books and have (several ?) DVD's but, I must say that the few hours that I've spent with "Tom Cicchiatti" stick out the most in my mind.

The books and videos are much easier on the wallet and schedule; however, the one on one time with a coach/instructor like Tommy are (for my $$$) the best investment in improving your game ;)

Best of Rolls, Ken :cool:
 
Good choice. Scott is a good guy, has tons of experience teaching and is constantly searching for new ways to get the message across to each individual student. He's the real deal. And he's fun!
 
Scott Lee said:
Tim...Looking forward to working with you, and everyone else who has scheduled time with me. See you next month! There are still a few slots open, if anyone is interested (March 9-11, Boston; March 12, CT; March 13-14, NJ/NYC; March 15-18, Valley Forge; March 19-23 Baltimore/Wash. DC; March 24-25, Richmond/Va. Beach; March 26, Eastern NC; March 27-28 Western NC; March 29, SC; March 30-31, Tallahassee FL; April 1-7, Clearwater FL).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Scott,

Are you going to be in the Raleigh, NC area? Let me know and I might pick up a spot.

Thanks!
 
Lessons with a real live human being are the best.

I just finished a three-day group clinic with Tom Simpson the other day - my head's ready to pop off my shoulders with all the information he crammed in there. It's amazing!
 
lessons suck! lessons suck! lessons suck!

oh sorry i was just reading the videos and books vs lessons thread lol.

seriously though, theres nothing wrong with books and videos, ive gotten some very useful info from both, but youre never going to make the kind of strides in your game from them like you will from some expert hands-on instruction. I was reading the other thread and it was almost funny some of the arguments and suggestions. Gambling will help your nerve some but its not going to help your game.
I want to learn how to play the guitar.....should i take lessons from someone who already knows how to play and let them teach me.......or should i find someone who plays and challenge them to a song-off for money....hmmmmmmmmmm, tough choice.
Ive seen scott in action at poolschool with randyg, youre in good hands, run with it.
 
Looking forward to meeting Tim at Comet Billiards, in NJ. It will be my first time in Bill Haley's room, and I can't wait to work there! I've met Bill at the BCA Trade Show, and from what I read and hear, his room is tops!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
Scott Lee said:
Looking forward to meeting Tim at Comet Billiards, in NJ. It will be my first time in Bill Haley's room, and I can't wait to work there! I've met Bill at the BCA Trade Show, and from what I read and hear, his room is tops!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Are you talking about the Bill Haley of 1 2 3 o'clock rock fame, or just a pool guy that shares his name???
I always wonder about what happens to those 1 hit wonder type guys when the ride is over.

McCue Banger McCue
 
I've never met Scott, but Comet Billiards is great...

...I've met Bill Haley (although he wouldn't be abe to pick me out of a police line-up) and been to Comet Billiards. Not only is his pool room clean... the tables are in great shape and the pockets are really tight. (tight pockets are the biggest shock to my system...<fanning myself>)

Tonight I shot for an hour at a pool hall that is less than 5 minutes from my house... The acid test was that after one rack, my bridge hand was filthy. The tables were a mess... I'm convinced they had a masse'-a-thon on the tables there.

The reason I mention this... I would rather have a lesson on a good table that is 45 minutes from my house, than at a pool hall, 5 minutes away, that doesn't seem to care about the condition of their tables. I could have had Scott come to my house and we'd work on my 7-foot table, with yada-yada cloth. Scott, to his credit, said it didn't matter... I thought a bigger table with fast cloth would expose my flaws exponentially. I can report that they do. (but not for long!)
 
scottycoyote said:
I want to learn how to play the guitar.....should i take lessons from someone who already knows how to play and let them teach me.......or should i find someone who plays and challenge them to a song-off for money....

"Pssssst! Hey, kid - I'll spot you four notes in Dueling Banjos"
 
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