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Boxed Set of Brunswick Balke Collender Ivory Balls
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in ny just your purchase is illegal to have been made and if you sell them you may spend an awful lot of money on legal fees.
unless they are not ivory and sold as such. if over 100 years old you can get by so you may want to find someone who gives an appraisal saying they are more than that old.
donating to a museum and taking a large tax writeoff may be more economical.
unless they are not ivory and sold as such. if over 100 years old you can get by so you may want to find someone who gives an appraisal saying they are more than that old.
donating to a museum and taking a large tax writeoff may be more economical.
Yes, only kidding! I'm not even sure what sweet oil is.
That's a problem in California, too. I have a set I was considering donating to a museum for a possible tax write off but I haven't pursued it. My set is not 100 years old.
Here are two other boxed sets. The ones on the left have curly cracking like other balls shown here but I do not se the Schreger lines in them.. Does that mean they are plastic?
The set on the right appears to be plastic with one white ball having small black dots and the other white balls which is a bit smaller having red dots. The red ball is the same size as the larger ball.
The set on the right appears to be plastic with one white ball having small black dots and the other white balls which is a bit smaller having red dots. The red ball is the same size as the larger ball.
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This is a nice boxed set with a great clean label.
Beware of faux ivory. Mainly made in Asia. They're meant to look like ivory with the grain, but there are always flaws. Also, they tend have a heavy plasticized finish, which ivory balls don't. I can't think of how many times someone has tried to make the case for ivory here.
since you cant buy or sell ivory and rightly so why do it and risk high penalties.
if they decide to make you a case then you could end up in jail or paying a lot of your net worth to avoid it.
the lacey act can lead to 100,000 dollar fine and a year in jail.
if they decide to make you a case then you could end up in jail or paying a lot of your net worth to avoid it.
the lacey act can lead to 100,000 dollar fine and a year in jail.
These other two sets appear to be old plastic balls. The set with two spotted cue balls is particularly mismatched. The curly-cracked cue ball might be interesting to a collector as a demonstration of that particular problem with the plastic. If you want to sell them, you should measure the diameters accurately in mm. I doubt you can get more than $10/ball.
still if you bought them thinking they were ivory you were also breaking the law. it is clearly illegal to trade in ivory or believe/ attempt you are trading in it.
even if you think its fine or should be fine it isn't much different than trading in cocaine or other hard drugs. and similar penalties will be dumped upon you.
op already posted his intentions to illegally buy and sell it while knowing the ny laws. and is actually violating the forum rules for selling illegal substances. and likely already being investigated by the authorities scanning posts on the subject.
even if you think its fine or should be fine it isn't much different than trading in cocaine or other hard drugs. and similar penalties will be dumped upon you.
op already posted his intentions to illegally buy and sell it while knowing the ny laws. and is actually violating the forum rules for selling illegal substances. and likely already being investigated by the authorities scanning posts on the subject.
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Bob is a very reliable source…….Ideologist is also another knowledgeable Azer.
This much ivory in a single sale is a otherwise pretty substantial amount of elephant ivory versus a pool cue
with ivory inlays or ivory ferrules. Even just ferrules could make a cue sale illegal or just a single Hoppe ring.
As a side note. Sets of new ivories came oversized at 2 1/2" and it was common practice to turn them down to their playing size of 2 3/8" after some use. Then of course down to the smaller sizes for pool and snooker. If those ivories are original at 2 1/2", you have something special.
Yes. I bought a set of brand new ivory balls in 1980 from A.E. Schmidt which may have been the last company selling newly turned balls. They explained that would probably need to be trued after a few years. I did in fact have them done a few years later. By that time the ball-turning guy was mostly retired and came back in to turn them.
Schmidt also apologized for the purplish red of the red ball. They explained that the traditional red color had been banned.
As I recall, in 1980 the balls were $80 each. By the time I had them trued, it was $80 to turn each ball.
Years ago I purchased a ball off eBay, other than a chip on it it looked new.
I figured it was played a few times and the chip happened after a few games.
The condition is remarkable.
You have beautiful balls lol. I grew up playing with that exact set.
After seeing the additional pictures, the balls are clearly ivory.
Thanks for the better pictures.
Will Prout
I'm in for 450 on them