Brazailian Rosewood Joint ...

The King

The King

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I'm in the planning stages of having a Brazailian Rosewood cue built there will also be some Curly Maple in the cue ... The woods are highly figured and look very nice some of the best you can find ... What I'm wondering is how would a Brazailian Rosewood Joint look and hold up in the cue ... I'm kind of worried about the long term effects as far as the joint holding up over time ... I have hit with a Cocobolo Jointed cue and I own one the hit is awesome ... I have been doing searches here on AZ on Brazailian Rosewood ... it is a very pretty wood and I have also found out it is part of the Cocobolo family .... I'm looking for someone or a few someones that may have experience in this and can give me some opinions....

Thank you ...
 
PurpleHeart Collar

Hello King,
I've sold Tim Scruggs Cues with PurpleHeart Joint Collars and I still see the guys using them at Brian's Billiards. This is about the 8 years + since I've sold it to them.
Use a Joint Protector to keep the edge from getting chipped. (Not a sales pitch, just facts)
See Ron's Collar, He didn't use his Protector, only for this photo I took for my photo collection. You should see his ferrule!!! They call him "Dirty Ferrule" Ron.. He said his TS Cue was the best cue he ever played with. He won the Las Vegas All Hawaii Tournament with his TS Cue..
Yes, I made the Custom Cap for him..
Ron does not break with his TS Cue, that would be the only thing I can think of that would really hurt the Wood Collars besides drastic temperture changes..
 

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I would not break with it ...

I use a break cue so I would not break with it and agree Joint protecters would be a must ... I know I got a Cocobolo jointed sneaky from Leon Sly and I fell in love with it ... Right away it became my player I was using a Schon 1131 ltd with a OB1 shaft up till that point ... I have started moving away from the stainless steel joints since then....
 
joeyincali

Top one is my personal braz cue.
Stag collar.
Braz rosewood is prone to surface checking.
 
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Rule of thumb for me is any wood joint collars are sleeved over phenolic from now on in my cues. I leave a solid face for strength and do a .030 thick ring left attached on the face also. The wood is sleeved from the back side of the collar.

<~~~you can never over engineer a phenolic/wood joint collar IMHO...........
 
You should sleeve all wood collars, joint rings and butt caps.

King, "dalbergia" is the latin name for the family of trees that includes all the rosewoods as well as the king woods, tulipwood, african blackwood, the cocobolos, and many others. The more wild the grain a collar has, the more necessary a phenolic sleeve becomes.
 
I've never made a wood jointed cue so it's nice to see all the insight here. I figured that I would try to impregnate the joint wood with some sort of resin under vacuum. Maybe West system. Any thoughts?
 
Bob Owen of Shurtz cues sends wood out to be impregnated with resins by a commercial company, then uses them to make wood joints. I've never hit with one, but the look is pretty cool. He was nice enough to explain them and their processing to me at the DCC (2) years ago.
 
Wood Jointed Cues ...

I can tell you this much about wood jointed cues , Leon Sly told me that a Cocobolo jointed cue is the nutzzzz.... And the hit is phenominal.... Leon has yet to mislead me I have a cue like this and he was right .... We talked over this last night ...Leon is making an exotic wood line of bout 10 cues ... Mine will be among them and will consist of a Brazillian and Curly Maple wood with the Brazillian joint... I will show pictures when it is finished we are figuring on Late August or September ...

Thanks for all your info ....
 
I build cues with exotic wood joint collars quite often and yet have had any problems with stability or structural compromise....

I do NOT suggest using exotic hardwoods as buttplates due to exposure to potential damage from bouncing the cue general bumping into table and etc....

However there is a certain degree of caution to be observed with having wood joint collars, but anyone who takes care of their equipment shouldn't have to worry !

Both my personal cues have ebony "gaboon" joint collars and I love em'

Just my 2 cents from a firsthand point of view !



- Eddie Wheat
 
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