Break: Best video ever of a break :D

Solartje

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Break: High Speed Camera + Hohnmann



YES, solly still working on his break analyses since Colin got me hooked on the break with his video.

so i did some video editing like i described on my post on how to post video's , and i made this in 10seconds, but it has enough to keep me busy for 3 months analysing it, and training my muscles to do it.

anyway, i hope u enjoy it.

the master Hohmann in action in high speed camera

Video 1: closeup side-view


Solly's video

Solly's video (other codec)

even slower

YOUtube version

Video 2: Total body birds-eye-view

Solly's second video

YOUtube version


well hohnmanns slowmo has learned me so much. ive been INTENSLY studying breaks, and he comes close to using all the posible tricks and bits, in one perfect coordinated move.

in short:
1/ place your griphand closer then normally (from collin) , u see in hohnmans video that he grips his cue at the very beginning of the wrap. his arm is 90° with the cue at the moment that his tip is NOT touching the cb. a way more forward placement REALLY helps.
FORWARD GRIP

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2/he uses a off the rail break. wich means the angle at wich the cue strikes the ball can be lower then if it was put on the rail. watch closely the video and pauze at the moment of impact. His cue hits the rail at the moment of impact, u CANT get a more horizontal stroke then this. this will prevent the CB from jumping. PERFECT HORIZONTAL CUE

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3/ now as it has been said, the backwards movement. this is more complicated. the problem is, the further the bridge, the further u can pull back, the more time u get to get on full speed. problem is, u lose controle. So what the pro's seem to do is: dont use a TO far bridge (check the video, hohnmann is really not bridging from far. when they pull back and the ferrule dissapeared in hid bridgehand, the only way to still pull back more, is to higher the end of the cue. now this dont brings the cue more backwards, BUT, it alows u on the breakstroke, to make an initial downwards movement. this way, your arm/shoulder will already be doing a movement and increasing in spead, BEFORE the ferule gets closer to the ball. just let gravity and centrufugal forge take controle, and prepare the shot. its like comparing going from 0-100 and going from 60-100km/h. the downwards movement makes your arm accelerate before you are stroking.

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4/ lose grip on the backwards movement. u can see this clearly with busta. His wrist is totally flexible, but at the moment of impact, his wrist is ALL tightened up. use a VERY felix wrist and just a split moment before the impact, grip the cue as TIGHT as u can. because of biologiefysics, your wrist will transform the bended loose wrist, in a snapping forward moving wrist.

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5/ forward body movement. just check colin's post, about a muscle who is prestressed. the forward body movement, works like an elastic. you body moves forward, and you shoulder/arm, etc folow abit later.

6/muscles. if u check most powerfull breaks; like in this video, the hardly use there elbow flex to get the cue moving forwarD. they use there shoulders. just check the angle from his elbow during the break. it hardly EVER changes. ALL comes from the shoulder. now combing the shoulder flexing, and the elbow flexing, results in a even higher amount of force. po,nt 5+6 can be clearly seen in Charly briants break on the Xbreaker site. he reaylly uses this first downards, then foward movement. instead of a line stroke, u use a more eliptical movement.

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7/ legs. they bend down before the stroke, and then they are fully stressed. just imagine, when u flex, power being in your feet, when u straighten up your legs, imagine this power floating upwards true the legs. well if u can move this power from the feet to your arm, by having the bended legs, fully straightened at the moment of impact, THEN u are putting the weight of your body IN the shot. the backleg kicking up^, is just a natural reaction. u jump up, so you legs kick up too. because of the forward body movement, the wieght is transfered from the back leg to the front leg, only this leg will support the full weight. thats why the back leg can do whatever he wants, and kick up high.

the best imlage i can give is: imagine your body being a : ...(sorry dont know the name , so ill post a picture.)
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. at the end the .... releases the force in the body by bending the body and knees. when u stretch this ...., at the moment of full stretch the power leaves the body tru its extends. AKA the legs and the arms. thats why one leg fLies all over the place, and your arm gets alot more force

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8/ folow true. either the cue goes up in the air like with archer, or the shaft bends totally. why? forward body movement, and the jumping with the legs. the body is propelled upwards, so the arm-grip has to go upwards anf forward too. the only difference between the 2 types is, one lets his bridgehand go off the table, the other one pressed the grip hand tightly on the cloth. as the tip is on the cloth, the bidge is on the cloth, but the griphand is proppeled forward and upwards, the shaft HAS to bend. its not a trick or anthing. its just the only way for a line to go true 3 points (tip, bridge, grip) that arent aligned. the last one not being in line, because of the upwards leg kicking.

if u coordinate these 8 points, at the same time. u get the dream break :D

ps: do hohnmans movement in slowmotion with a mirror next to you, and compare it. really do this movement a thousand times, starting at silly slowmotion speed, and increasing. this coordination is alot easyer to do when u are doing it slowly. its easyer this way, then to start at 80% power, and then add one movement to controle each time. better to start coordinating ALL the movements at the same time, but in slowmo and increase the speed.

the most important part in a masive break is the leg kicking and the highering the buttend at the end of the pulling to give u a longer distance to achieve the highest speeds.
 
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Quicktime, says I need a codec. Do you know what one?

Thanks, Mack


Solartje said:
Break: High Speed Camera + Hohnmann



YES, solly still working on his break analyses since Colin got me hooked on the break with his video.

so i did some video editing like i described on my post on how to post video's , and i made this in 10seconds, but it has enough to keep me busy for 3 months analysing it, and training my muscles to do it.

anyway, i hope u enjoy it.

the master Hohmann in action in high speed camera

Solly's video

even slower
 
dvix mpeg-4

but i added a version with another compression. try this one let me know if it works?


(ill add some drawings etc tomorow, cuz its 5:43am, but ive got some notes etc, ill post on here, about my analyses. compare it with colin's technique...

note to myself: dont watch to much of the martial art syntific analyses on National Geografic, because they are WAY to inspiring in my break-learning-thingy. techniques used for propelling weapons, are SO cool and im starting to, get the picture on how to generate so much power.(mentally... :) not on the table yet; but thats phase 2)
 
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Both dont work for me.... I downloaded the divx codec also.

Mack

Solartje said:
dvix mpeg-4

but i added a version with another compression. try this one let me know if it works?


(ill add some drawings etc tomorow, cuz its 5:43am, but ive got some notes etc, ill post on here, about my analyses. compare it with colin's technique...

note to myself: dont watch to much of the martial art syntific analyses on National Geografic, because they are WAY to inspiring in my break-learning-thingy. techniques used for propelling weapons, are SO cool and im starting to, get the picture on how to generate so much power.(mentally... :) not on the table yet; but thats phase 2)
 
Neither worked for me when I clicked the link and QT attempted to play them. I then right clicked the link to download the actual file and played it in VLC (Video Lan Client). That worked fine.
 
I'm under the impression that QT can't/won't use external video codecs to play vids. Use regular mediaplayer instead. If you have codec problems, download FFDShow which is a program that installs a package of different audio and video codecs on your computer.

Nice vids Solly ! Hohmann has a good break and his body movement is very controlled and his timing is excellent.
 
Worked for me.

Thanks,

Mack

iusedtoberich said:
Neither worked for me when I clicked the link and QT attempted to play them. I then right clicked the link to download the actual file and played it in VLC (Video Lan Client). That worked fine.
 
Nice vids Solly...I need anything to help my break...I noticed Thorsten raises up just before pulling the trigger...I found that helps when I watched Tates vid and he stanced taller before he broke the balls...it seems to add alot of power without sacrificing control...
 
I can't get the video to play... maybe you could stick the video out on UTUBE...
 
Craig Fales said:
...I noticed Thorsten raises up just before pulling the trigger...I found that helps when I watched Tates vid and he stanced taller before he broke the balls...it seems to add alot of power without sacrificing control...
To help you all in your quest for a better break, please consider the following:

The following is a video (poor quality) I've posted previously of Jon Kucharo's break. If you don't know him, he had a HUGE, ear ringing break. You'll note that he starts in a normal(ish) shooting stance (not standing high like most of us do) and then makes a strong upward shift before snapping the cue forward with enormous leverage using his entire upper body. Note his elbow/shoulder follow-thru.

Normal Speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDUfFDByvOM
Slow Motion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLaINwbSoJ4

The following are two videos of Francisco Bustamante's break during a ring game at the 2007 DCC. Note that he (like Hohmann above) raises the butt of the cue very high before making a strong body shift followed by a down & forward stroke of the cue.

Side-Rear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1lGmxqPNd8
Side-Front: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysrxi_w6_B4

The following is a video of Johnny Archer's break during a ring game at the 2007 DCC. You'll note that he starts in a normal(ish) shooting stance (not standing high like most of us do) and then makes a strong upward shift before snapping the cue forward with enormous leverage using his entire upper body. Note his extreme extension of the arm. Johnny's grip is loose, but not as extreme as Buste's.

Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmWyiZ73ymg
Rear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXTA2n-qkwY

In all cases, a low starting stance followed by a strong body move before the cue is snapped forward.

In most cases, I trimmed the many practice strokes off to keep the videos of reasonable length.




Now for a little fun...poke fun at my lame breaking abilities...non-existent back-stroke and low tip speed...but hey, I made something!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xRnowVrMFU
 
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That's a great video. I could only watch the 2nd codec one, didn't feel like saving it to my disk. I don't understand why QT lacks codecs for Divx. Stupid if you ask me. Been irritating me for almost 2 years now, since I got a mac. The only thing I can think of that's irritated me.:)
 
Craig Fales said:
I need anything to help my break...I noticed Thorsten raises up just before pulling the trigger......it seems to add alot of power without sacrificing control...

I'm going to practice my break by raising the back of my cue up before the follow through like Thorsten does in the video. I know a guy in town that raises up like that before he follows and his break is awesome. I need all the help I can get on my break since it's the weakest part of my 9 ball game.

Thanks for the links to the videos. I think they'll help me after I get a chance to practice that type of stroke, but I don't think i'll be bending my shaft like that though!
 
added youtube of the video's so everyone can enjoy the video, and added some of my notes. Hope u enjoy it all
 
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If you have multiple kinds of video player on your PCs, file type association could have been changed.

To make your Window Media Player as the default player again, open Windows MP --> Tools --> Options --> click on File Type tab --> click on Select All button --> click OK.
 
added more to the first post.

ps am i still forgetting or not seeing important things?
 
SCCues said:
I'm going to practice my break by raising the back of my cue up before the follow through like Thorsten does in the video. I know a guy in town that raises up like that before he follows and his break is awesome. I need all the help I can get on my break since it's the weakest part of my 9 ball game.

Thanks for the links to the videos. I think they'll help me after I get a chance to practice that type of stroke, but I don't think i'll be bending my shaft like that though!

I was noticing that he increases the distance between his chin and the cue and still keeping his cue level just before pulling the trigger...this has helped get more power to my break without sacrificing control....
 
I am not computer literate at all and I can't find a way to view this break video. What can a clutz like me do?
 
Solartje said:
added more to the first post.

ps am i still forgetting or not seeing important things?

Excellent post, Solly ! The pics are very informative !!!! :cool:
 
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