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pierrebnh

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I apologize if this is in the wrong place of the forum.

I recently bought a playing cue (Schmelke if that helps). I'd rather not have to buy a separate breaking cue. Is there any difference between a "playing butt" and "breaking butt" and would it be reasonable to simply own a playing shaft and a breaking shaft?

I can't think of any reason there'd be a problem. Thanks!
 
i play with my break cue sometimes, as long as you dont miscue you are fine.
 
Unless you have a quick disconnect... changing shafts will be a super pain in the asterix!

But would work just fine.

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nineballsafety8 said:
Unless you have a quick disconnect... changing shafts will be a super pain in the asterix!

But would work just fine.

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Thanks! I couldn't think of why there'd be any difference between the butts of a playing/breaking cue. It's the Schmelke brass insert, so it's a small but sturdy joint, not too terrible for speed.
 
Yeah but why go through all this. A break cue that comes apart for jumping is only around 50 bucks. It isn't worth the trouble to buy a shaft for breaking and swap it.

Better yet. Just play one hole and straight pool and you won't even need one. :thumbup: j/k But honestly, jut get one separate IMO
 
3andstop said:
Yeah but why go through all this. A break cue that comes apart for jumping is only around 50 bucks. It isn't worth the trouble to buy a shaft for breaking and swap it.

Better yet. Just play one hole and straight pool and you won't even need one. :thumbup: j/k But honestly, jut get one separate IMO
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I'd rather not cheap out on a cue, and if I avoided buying an entirely new one I could at least have the money to buy a nice shaft. Besides, I have two playing cues (and haven't decided which one I like better yet) so I could just show up with both, the break shaft on one. I appreciate the input.
 
Nothing wrong with it at all. I have a Brunswick BBC that I built a break shaft for.

I also built a break shaft for another player that has a 1x2 case and didn't want to buy a
break cue. He likes his set up just fine and makes lots off the break.

If you make one off the break, it only takes a few seconds to unscrew and put your playing shaft on.
 
pierrebnh said:
I'd rather not cheap out on a cue, and if I avoided buying an entirely new one I could at least have the money to buy a nice shaft. Besides, I have two playing cues (and haven't decided which one I like better yet) so I could just show up with both, the break shaft on one. I appreciate the input.
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I bought a players J/B cue. I works just fine for me. And it was inexpensive. Around $80. Just because it's inexpensive doesn't mean it isn't good. For some people I know that stick is trash. But for some (me). It's perfect. When I am better at the game and I'm out playing my stick, I'll get another. Until then. My cheapo will work just fine.
 
Don't put your equipment down. I know quite a few very decent players that use cheaper break cues and j/b cues and they get along just fine. Its whatever works for you.

I know one Master that can play off the wall a country mile better than most of us can play on a good day with good stuff in our hands.

In my opinion, Players used to be Wal Mart quality but have been getting much better over the past couple of years and are putting some decent cues out there for the average player and for a decent price as well. Absolutely nothing wrong with them these days.
 
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infest said:
I bought a players J/B cue. I works just fine for me. And it was inexpensive. Around $80. Just because it's inexpensive doesn't mean it isn't good. For some people I know that stick is trash. But for some (me). It's perfect. When I am better at the game and I'm out playing my stick, I'll get another. Until then. My cheapo will work just fine.
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Your cheapo is literally the best JB for the buck on the planet. I have tried many many JBs, and for under $90 the JJ (preferably not the 1 piece tip/ferrule) keeps up with almost every mid end JB cue.
 
pierrebnh said:
I apologize if this is in the wrong place of the forum.

I recently bought a playing cue (Schmelke if that helps). I'd rather not have to buy a separate breaking cue. Is there any difference between a "playing butt" and "breaking butt" and would it be reasonable to simply own a playing shaft and a breaking shaft?

I can't think of any reason there'd be a problem. Thanks!
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yea I'm not sure if I understand the question 100% but I want too give you a heads up just in case you play in any leagues,,, from my understanding you want to use the same forearm(Butt) of the cue and switch out shafts after the break? and I only ask if your a League player because I seen in a rule book that if you break down your cue during a match that's an automatic Lost I think the Rule is Stupid but that's my opinion,,, if my opponent wants to change shafts or cues while I play him I have no problem at all as long as its within reason,,, I don't want him changing cues every shot lol,,, but I wanted to give you a heads up just incase you are a league player
 
Sniper 55 said:
yea I'm not sure if I understand the question 100% but I want too give you a heads up just in case you play in any leagues,,, from my understanding you want to use the same forearm(Butt) of the cue and switch out shafts after the break? and I only ask if your a League player because I seen in a rule book that if you break down your cue during a match that's an automatic Lost I think the Rule is Stupid but that's my opinion,,, if my opponent wants to change shafts or cues while I play him I have no problem at all as long as its within reason,,, I don't want him changing cues every shot lol,,, but I wanted to give you a heads up just incase you are a league player
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I was going to mention the same thing. In the APA you are conceding a game if you start breaking down your cue. I think the thought is to stop that classic sharking rule, but its the rule. I'm not sure about other leagues.
I think it would be more obvious what your doing, but at least in that league, breaking down the cue is bad.
I think it would give you a bad look anywhere though. Unless you make a ball on the brake, and its still your turn, it will look like your sharking. And honestly, you will be sharking even though its not your attempt. Putting it on your other playing cue and having both shouldn't be an issue. Any playing cue could be a break cue I guess.
 
CantEverWin said:
I was going to mention the same thing. In the APA you are conceding a game if you start breaking down your cue. I think the thought is to stop that classic sharking rule, but its the rule. I'm not sure about other leagues.
I think it would be more obvious what your doing, but at least in that league, breaking down the cue is bad.
I think it would give you a bad look anywhere though. Unless you make a ball on the brake, and its still your turn, it will look like your sharking. And honestly, you will be sharking even though its not your attempt. Putting it on your other playing cue and having both shouldn't be an issue. Any playing cue could be a break cue I guess.
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It's only loss of game if you break down your cue and start packing them up because it's a statement that you've given the game to your opponent. Also to prevent sharking. You can break down your cue to switch shafts if it's still your turn at the table or you are swapping shafts from a break to a shooting, or you break a shaft. Atleast that's how it's stated in our local by-laws.
 
I'd never do this, way too much time spent putting the shafts together and apart. You can just use a house cue to break with, or buy a $50 cue with a hard tip.

It would also break your rythm like crazy. Break, take apart the shaft, put new shaft on, and you're already out of the mentallity of focusing on the table. Then after each game you stop, take off the shaft, put on the break shaft, break, stop, take off the break shaft, put on the playing shaft...

I'd rather just use my playing shaft to break in this case. Or if you already have a break shaft, buy a cheap cue with the right thread for it.
 
Sniper 55 said:
yea I'm not sure if I understand the question 100% but I want too give you a heads up just in case you play in any leagues,,, from my understanding you want to use the same forearm(Butt) of the cue and switch out shafts after the break? and I only ask if your a League player because I seen in a rule book that if you break down your cue during a match that's an automatic Lost I think the Rule is Stupid but that's my opinion,,, if my opponent wants to change shafts or cues while I play him I have no problem at all as long as its within reason,,, I don't want him changing cues every shot lol,,, but I wanted to give you a heads up just incase you are a league player
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This is only true if you do it for no reason suddenly and during the opponents turn. If it's your turn you can tell the guy, I AM CHANGING SHAFTS, and it's all good.

If there was someone that was changing shafts every game I'd think he was a bit slow in the head.
 
When my Jacoby was my regular playing cue ( made with quick release pin) I used a z shaft to play and a cheap used lucasi with white diamond tip to break. I liked the result and only took a moment. So worked for me.

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hang-the-9 said:
I'd never do this, way too much time spent putting the shafts together and apart. You can just use a house cue to break with, or buy a $50 cue with a hard tip.

It would also break your rythm like crazy. Break, take apart the shaft, put new shaft on, and you're already out of the mentallity of focusing on the table. Then after each game you stop, take off the shaft, put on the break shaft, break, stop, take off the break shaft, put on the playing shaft...

I'd rather just use my playing shaft to break in this case. Or if you already have a break shaft, buy a cheap cue with the right thread for it.
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I Would have to Agree with this and I do understand that everyone if different but looking at the big picture you are using a lot of your focus on one Shot of the game

and I'm sorry I forgot to answer your question earlier,, The Forearm/butt is not that important when it comes to the Break cue,,, I know a lot of people are going to disagree with me but I feel the Tip is the most important on top of Your Technique,,, I use a cheap 18$ Fiberglass cue and when I break a Rack most of the people in the room hear it lol in a good way lol,, but I hope this Helps again that's what were all hear for is to help each other enjoy the Game more
 
Thanks for all the opinions guys.

When I refer to "cheaping out on a cue" I'm basically talking about anything in the $30-$50 range. I'd never consider an $80 cue a "cheap cue." I clearly have some decision to make about where I go from here.

Thanks, guys!
 
I think like the friend of mine who owns a pool room....

He sees a guy that has a break cue and a playing cue....my friend always leans over and whispers to me...

"League player":thumbup:

I play with Szamboti cue....I break with it too....;)

Ken
 
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