Break shot practice

Sorry, man, I had to laugh when you scratched in the side. Not because you scratched but because I've done that a billion times and your reaction was priceless. Did you cut the tape before the F word came out? hehe!!

Days like that happen, man. Undercut that ball 50 times in a row like you've never held a cue before. I wish I had a dollar for every one of those shots.
MULLY
 
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dmgwalsh said:
Thanks for the tips.:thumbup:
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I actually typed up a long post and even posted a video, but I mentioned aiming system based stuff and then decided to go back and erase everything. I didn't want to incite a riot.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I actually typed up a long post and even posted a video, but I mentioned aiming system based stuff and then decided to go back and erase everything. I didn't want to incite a riot.
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I saw it before it was erased.

Dennis
 
dmgwalsh said:
I saw it before it was erased.

Dennis
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Good. I hope that helps. Pivoting is the key to break shots, imo. When you pivot there are only 3 break shots - 4 max.

When you simplify like that, the game becomes a lot easier. Avoid english unless you're pivoting because you'll undercut by a large margin otherwise (which you found out).

Good luck :)
Dave
 
You know, I've never been into systems but I'm not opposed to people that are, but Dave, there are days when the Gods just don't want you to make a ball no matter what you do. Obviously Dennis was having one of those days. The miscue on the second shot was the fate sealer there. Days like that you might as well just step away for an hour or so and try again later.
MULLY
 
Hi Dennis,

I'd like to suggest a few things too.
- Slow down your tempo a bit. You're bending down to shoot as soon as you place the cue ball on the table. That suggests to me that you're aiming while bent over instead of aiming while standing up.
- If you're having difficulty with a particular cut shot angle, try shooting with an easier cut shot angle and become proficient with that. Then try making the cut shot angles progressively more difficult (progressive practicing).

Hope that helps a bit. :)
 
Dennis my friend you were having a bad day.

I have to agree with some of the other posts, slow down a bit, visualize are all good thoughts I did see Dave's suggestions on pivoting and the CTE thing but I have to think that was all good advice but I will add my own morsal to the pile.

When you are preparing to shoot any shot whether it is a breakshot or something easy or the game ball you have to commit to that shot not shoot it to see how it comes out but commit to the shot before going through the motions of executing the shot. When I took a lesson from Stan Shuffet he used the term chin lock and I have heard other fine players use the same term. Taking in the shot and committing to it.

Same idea, I was hitting some balls with Jarvis at the Derby and I dogged a simple 8 ball trying to get on the 9. The shot had a little backwards cut and I missed the ball and he stopped and talked to me about this same moment in the shot and he mentioned squaring up to the line of the cue ball path when commiting to the shot. He was very direct on not glancing at the path while the body is turned, by squaring up and commiting to the path of the cue ball the aiming starts early. This has helped me some.

I need to get back up to the IBC we need to play some more.
 
Richardson said:
Please do us all a favor and dont tape that anymore.
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You are not a nice poster are you friend.

Be a little kinder in the straight pool section please.
 
elvicash said:
Dennis my friend you were having a bad day.

I have to agree with some of the other posts, slow down a bit, visualize are all good thoughts I did see Dave's suggestions on pivoting and the CTE thing but I have to think that was all good advice but I will add my own morsal to the pile.

When you are preparing to shoot any shot whether it is a breakshot or something easy or the game ball you have to commit to that shot not shoot it to see how it comes out but commit to the shot before going through the motions of executing the shot. When I took a lesson from Stan Shuffet he used the term chin lock and I have heard other fine players use the same term. Taking in the shot and committing to it.

Same idea, I was hitting some balls with Jarvis at the Derby and I dogged a simple 8 ball trying to get on the 9. The shot had a little backwards cut and I missed the ball and he stopped and talked to me about this same moment in the shot and he mentioned squaring up to the line of the cue ball path when commiting to the shot. He was very direct on not glancing at the path while the body is turned, by squaring up and commiting to the path of the cue ball the aiming starts early. This has helped me some.

I need to get back up to the IBC we need to play some more.
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Dana, buddy, thanks for the advice. Lord knows I have some serious fundamental flaws and I am working to fix them. Thanks for the tips.

I put this particular video up just to give people something to laugh at.

I may have to delete it again.

By the way, we are having a 14.1 tournament at Red Shoes this morning. Lots of people from IBC and Red Shoes expected. Customqs won the last one and I think he is shooting better now. Coz will be in it. Eddy no can do. Rick, Sr. Should be interesting.

Later.
 
thx for the video, I needed that.
I could only recommend that you turn off the tv. The tele is possibly one of the most distracting appliances ever made. I can play with the washer or dryer running np, but never a tv.
put on some music, man. There will be times you won't even hear it.
steven
ps, that scratch was priceless.
 
break shot 1

Bumping this old chestnut for some of you newer guys that may have not seen it.

Just so you know that my horrible play is no fluke and that I have a large body of work to back up my claim.
 
bump for a little levity

It takes practice to get better at this game. Watch and learn! :cool:
 
Dennis, thank you for bringing this thread back up (I'm fairly new and had not seen it).

I wasn't expecting a video like this...Super funny!, and thanks for having the guts to broadcast one of your worst days. The final double kiss into the corner was classic, you cant make that up :D

This is funny because you are not a banger, but actually a good player.

You just made me feel a whole better about playing pool, I thought I was the only one who missed shots like this. This is exactly the free lesson I needed today, to realize everyone has bad days, just keep getting back on that horse ;)

I will replay this video everytime I have a bad day at the table :thumbup:
 
michael4 said:
Dennis, thank you for bringing this thread back up (I'm fairly new and had not seen it).

I wasn't expecting a video like this...Super funny!, and thanks for having the guts to broadcast one of your worst days. The final double kiss into the corner was classic, you cant make that up :D

This is funny because you are not a banger, but actually a good player.

You just made me feel a whole better about playing pool, I thought I was the only one who missed shots like this. This is exactly the free lesson I needed today, to realize everyone has bad days, just keep getting back on that horse ;)

I will replay this video everytime I have a bad day at the table :thumbup:
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Michael: Thanks for responding. That makes it worthwhile. It is what it is and I did what I did. No sense pretending otherwise.

Later.
 
I know this is an old post. I don't think your problem had anything to do with bad aim. It looked to me like the whole thing was on your stroke. I don't think an aiming system will necessarily fix a stroke problem.

Oh, and it was pretty funny. I have trouble with this shot when hit hard so I know what it feels like. :rolleyes:
 
I also want to chime in and say thanks. I tend to get very frustrated when I repeatedly miss that break shot. I'm going to keep this in mind next time it happens.
 
Good. I hope that helps. Pivoting is the key to break shots, imo. When you pivot there are only 3 break shots - 4 max.

When you simplify like that, the game becomes a lot easier. Avoid english unless you're pivoting because you'll undercut by a large margin otherwise (which you found out).

Good luck
Dave

I don't even understand this post. what is wrong with straightback and straight through? IMHO if you need to pivot, whatever that is, it is nothing more than a band aid to an imperfect stroke to begin with.

steven

??pivoting is making it simple??
c,mon
 
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