Break speed? Theres an app 4 that....

All,

The Android version has reached "release candidate" stage. What that means is that *we* think it's done.

Hey Paul, glad to hear that you were able to fix that little 'issue' we found last week. It was cool to meet you and talk shop for a while.
 
Android

Just a quick note... the Android version just showed up on the Android Market a few minutes ago.
 
Purchased.

Thinking I must be the first person ever to buy the droidable version. Cool beans! Especially cool considering I started this thread well before it was available. Its the circle of web I tell ya.

I have had an chance to play with this on the iphone so I know what to expect. I'll post a quick review in the morning when I get home (tis where the table is) if anyone is interested in how they compare.
 
I've been following this thread for weeks, just bought the droid version this morning.

I had to try it out before I left for work. It works great! Simple to use. I made sure the table size setting was correct, set the phone next to the table and started smacking my Break Rak like it owed me money. This app is awesome.

Paul, if you haven't done it already, maybe you should make a Youtube vid and show the ins and outs of this great app. It was the best $6 I ever spent.

*edit- Paul, can you tell us a lil about the accuracy of the app?

Eric
 
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I've been stuck on the authorizing purchase page for the last hour its so annoying. I even tried to reload it i hit cancel and install again but same problem.
 
*edit- Paul, can you tell us a lil about the accuracy of the app?

The accuracy is the same as the iPhone version. It uses the same audio bit rate as the iPhone version (44.1KHz, which is very good), doesn't have any issues with post-processing (AGC, echo cancellation, etc.) and uses the same Break Detection algorithm that the iPhone version uses.
 
I've been stuck on the authorizing purchase page for the last hour its so annoying. I even tried to reload it i hit cancel and install again but same problem.

Did the market ever actually authorize your purchase?
 
What is the appropriate way to edit breaks on Break Speed?

I took my iphone to the pool hall today and was practicing my breaks.

on multiple breaks it registered over 100 MPH, yes I typed that correctly.

I knew that something was wrong, so I figured that's what the edit feature was for.

My question is this. How do you know which sound waves to include in your break speed. Can you tell by looking at the peaks? What if there are more than 2? say 4 or 5?

Thanks for the info.
 
on multiple breaks it registered over 100 MPH, yes I typed that correctly.

I knew that something was wrong, so I figured that's what the edit feature was for.

My question is this. How do you know which sound waves to include in your break speed. Can you tell by looking at the peaks? What if there are more than 2? say 4 or 5?

What iPhone device are you on (3, 3GS, iPhone 4, iPod, etc.)?

The most common cause of this is an echo. The initial sound hits the mic and gets registered as the break, but then an echo of the break is added to itself, which triggers the break to be re-detected in that spot. When this happens, both markers are in the break shot. Simply move the blue marker to the start of the previous peak, and move the red marker (which should be in the middle of a peak) to the start of that peak. Then zoom in on each one and make sure it's at the very start of that sound event.

If the markers are nowhere near the actual tip/rack sound events, then you can find them by zooming into the peaks and finding those peaks that meet certain visual criteria. A break shot is what is called an "Onset" audio event. This just means that the sound starts immediately at full amplitude (it doesn't have any lead-in.) The tip is very similar, just not quite as loud.

So the key to finding the right sound, is to look for the loudest "onset" sound. This usually means zooming into the left side of each peak to find the one that starts most immediately. Once you do this a few times, you'll start to get a feel for how the sounds look - a break shot usually starts loud, clips (i.e., reaches all the way to the top/bottom of the screen) for a short period, then falls off sharply with a "round tail". The same is true for the tip, it's just not quite as loud.

Here's an image that might help - this was taken from a break shot in a quiet room, so your breaks will probably look a bit different if you are doing this in a pool room with music:

http://www.mybreakspeed.com/images/edit.gif
 
Update:

I've been using the Droid version (Verizon Wireless Droid) for the past week. Everything works flawlessly. The results have been consistent and the app works like clockwork. Love it.


Eric
 
I just got the iPhone 4. Previously I was using the iPod touch gen 2 with this app. I broke 10 times with iPhone 4 and each time break was recorded as about 5mph. I didn't have this problem with the iPod.
 
I just got the iPhone 4. Previously I was using the iPod touch gen 2 with this app. I broke 10 times with iPhone 4 and each time break was recorded as about 5mph. I didn't have this problem with the iPod.

But your signal strength indicator was strong on the iP4 I'll bet.
Okay, I admit that was a cheap shot at the deception recently reported by Apple. Sorry...Don't taze me bro! :o

The app is working great on my Incredible (Android) and BB.
 
Works great on my motorola cliq...running android. Just like my buddies Iphone.

Well, that would be true until he bought the Iphone 4. Now mine works much better than his.

I broke 10 times with iPhone 4 and each time break was recorded as about 5mph. I didn't have this problem with the iPod.

My buddy transfered his apps (how ever that gets done) from his previous Iphone to the new ip4. The app went from working great to doing pretty much I have quoted above.

Not sure if Paul is aware so I'm passing that along.

But as far as the droid version....works great! The iphone version is great too, but there may be some compatibility issues with the ip4.
Just a heads up too all involved.

Peace
 
Yes the new iPhone 4 has 2 microphones for noise suppression and better overall sound quality. This might be the reason it's no longer working with this app. Whatever the reason I hope it can be resolved.
 
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