MrLucky said:
EVERYBODY in the pool world knew Cisero!
Breaking with an ivory ferrule - Is it a bad idea?
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EVERYBODY in the pool world knew Cisero!
> It's been my personal experience with them that you just about can't break an ivory ferrule playing normal pool with it,sudden changes in weather have cracked more ivory ferrules in front of me than anything but a badly executed vertical masse attempt. I watched one literally shatter in Memphis from just a crisp draw stroke to punch the cueball to the side rail and back out,but he said the cue was in his car for 2 hours when it was about 15 degrees outside. Maybe Charlie Bryant or Jon Kucharo could break one by breaking with them,but I haven't yet. I really like the way ivory feels on a break cue too,but I hate the pads and usually have a very thin tip on my break cues,so I don't use it,but am not allergic to putting one on if I thought it might work better. Tommy D.
jay helfert said:
Cisero's extended hesitation of his back swing at the top, was unique, 1-3 seconds. If you ever played in some of the rougher poolrooms years back the sharking always took place on the backswing during the hesitation. I've always thought that Cisero having grown up in the black pool rooms developed his style because of the rail. I can count on one hand all the gentlemen players of color back in the day that I enjoyed matching up with. Nowadays its completely changed. Probably the nicest of em all was Gabby, wonderful man, nice smile and would bet it up, hand two or three guys he traveled around with on the west coast, wore very nice cloths, hats and a great group of guys. That was then, hope Gabby is doin' well.
Island Drive said:
Bad news. From a reliable source, Gabby died in a Texas Prison a year or two ago. You probably knew he had been incarcerated for some time.
He had that soft smile and killer game. He got his nickname because he never said a word while playing. I played him twice. Two losses.
Thanks AZ members!!!
I would like to thank all the AZ members who posted in this thread for all your insight, information, opinions, shared experiences and wisdom. I posed this question because I recently acquired a cue with ivory ferrules to use as my main play cue and I wanted to know the ramifications of breaking with it. I personally prefer to play/use one cue only (no break cue/no jump cue). Cold temerature is not a concern since I'm in Hawaii and I have a mediocre break at best due to a rotator cuff shoulder injury. Also I have never damaged or broken any part of a cue through normal play so I intend to stick with my one cue repertoire. Take care all and thanks again!!!
I would like to thank all the AZ members who posted in this thread for all your insight, information, opinions, shared experiences and wisdom. I posed this question because I recently acquired a cue with ivory ferrules to use as my main play cue and I wanted to know the ramifications of breaking with it. I personally prefer to play/use one cue only (no break cue/no jump cue). Cold temerature is not a concern since I'm in Hawaii and I have a mediocre break at best due to a rotator cuff shoulder injury. Also I have never damaged or broken any part of a cue through normal play so I intend to stick with my one cue repertoire. Take care all and thanks again!!!
jay helfert said:
i tried it once, and the rhythm of it drove me nuts
part of the reasoning behind it makes great sense. a protege of his whom i used to play14.1 with at mamouth billiards on 26th st, said that cis said he "took a mental snapshot of the shot just before he stroked"
i don't know if that's THE reason cis hesitated, but it's an interesting pov.
bruin70 said:i tried it once, and the rhythm of it drove me nuts
part of the reasoning behind it makes great sense. a protege of his whom i used to play14.1 with at mamouth billiards on 26th st, said that cis said he "took a mental snapshot of the shot just before he stroked"
i don't know if that's THE reason cis hesitated, but it's an interesting pov.
Worked for him!
Works for Buddy & Allison too. Allie told me that it eliminates any sideways motion in her stroke....with the "pause" at the height of her back swing...then her stroke came forward, straight & true.bruin70 said:
jay helfert said:
I had the pleasure of watching Gabby play a few different times when he was hanging around the old Hard Times in Costa Mesa 30 years ago. The smoothist player I ever saw and played excellent patterns. Dressed very well and Humdinger Lynn hanging on his arm didn't hurt either.
no-sho