Broken Breakrak

Not sure I’m worthy of such lofty company but what the hell. Let’s jerk.


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Hate to interrupt the circle jerk...

But i agree: the BreakRak is uniquie and hugely useful training aid that does what it claims to.
It might be a nice training aid, but would never be allowed in our poolroom. Constant breaking will create a far worse "cue ball break track" than normal play does, regardless of whether you use a break pad. If you want to do this to your home table's cloth, that's fine, but don't bring that gadget in to our poolroom! If you're going to allow someone to use that in a public poolroom, you might as well allow people to practice jump shots and masse shots all they want!

We allow our regulars to practice their jump shots, masse shots and trick shots requiring masse only when we are within a few weeks of recovering all our tables.
 
The Pool Rooms that do allow our product to be used on their tables, don't seem to have a problem. They allow it to be used all over their facility, thereby cutting down the wear on just one or a few tables. I use it on my table without much wear, but I don't shoot from the same spot all the time. I have always suggested shooting from all across the Head String, so that you'll be comfortable when you have to break from a different spot. And I use a pad.

Most of my customers don't use this training tool in a Pool Room, but some do. Maintaining an environment for learning doesn't include interruptions from a Peanut Gallery (it's Howdy Doody Time). They just use it on their table at home.

We've been around for 15 years & we still don't advertise. Word of mouth about the product & the benefits gained from using it, cause enough work around here for me. We've sold thousands & they're sold around the world. I'm still waiting for my first South America & Africa sale.

As long as the Champions continue to use the BreakRAK, the Amateurs will too.

Good Luck...
 
The Pool Rooms that do allow our product to be used on their tables, don't seem to have a problem. They allow it to be used all over their facility, thereby cutting down the wear on just one or a few tables. I use it on my table without much wear, but I don't shoot from the same spot all the time. I have always suggested shooting from all across the Head String, so that you'll be comfortable when you have to break from a different spot. And I use a pad.

Most of my customers don't use this training tool in a Pool Room, but some do. Maintaining an environment for learning doesn't include interruptions from a Peanut Gallery (it's Howdy Doody Time). They just use it on their table at home.

We've been around for 15 years & we still don't advertise. Word of mouth about the product & the benefits gained from using it, cause enough work around here for me. We've sold thousands & they're sold around the world. I'm still waiting for my first South America & Africa sale.

As long as the Champions continue to use the BreakRAK, the Amateurs will too.

Good Luck...
I assume the main benefit of using this tool is trying to gain consistency with controlling your CB when you break? I don't really understand how much that helps, unless you can see how good a spread of the balls you get and whether or not you're making any balls on the break?
 
I assume the main benefit of using this tool is trying to gain consistency with controlling your CB when you break? I don't really understand how much that helps, unless you can see how good a spread of the balls you get and whether or not you're making any balls on the break?

You don’t really understand how controlling your cue ball on the break helps? This product is clearly not for you.
 
You don’t really understand how controlling your cue ball on the break helps? This product is clearly not for you.
I believe I stated that in my first sentence. It's just that it's easy to control the CB on the break when you don't have to worry about how good a spread you're getting on the object balls and/or whether you can consistently make balls on the break.

Anyone can break just hard enough to park the CB near the middle of the table, but that doesn't do much good unless you are getting a good spread and making balls, and I don't see where using that device will provide that feedback. I have one that was given to me as a gift, but I've rarely used it.
 
I assume the main benefit of using this tool is trying to gain consistency with controlling your CB when you break? I don't really understand how much that helps, unless you can see how good a spread of the balls you get and whether or not you're making any balls on the break?

Well there's that magic word again. Assume.

I believe I stated that in my first sentence. It's just that it's easy to control the CB on the break when you don't have to worry about how good a spread you're getting on the object balls and/or whether you can consistently make balls on the break.

Anyone can break just hard enough to park the CB near the middle of the table, but that doesn't do much good unless you are getting a good spread and making balls, and I don't see where using that device will provide that feedback. I have one that was given to me as a gift, but I've rarely used it.

Then go ahead and gift it to me if you clearly don't see its usefulness. But here's the thing, not everyone wants to just "stop the rock".
 
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I believe I stated that in my first sentence. It's just that it's easy to control the CB on the break when you don't have to worry about how good a spread you're getting on the object balls and/or whether you can consistently make balls on the break.

Anyone can break just hard enough to park the CB near the middle of the table, but that doesn't do much good unless you are getting a good spread and making balls, and I don't see where using that device will provide that feedback. I have one that was given to me as a gift, but I've rarely used it.

Play around with it for a while, if you still do t see the benefits ship it to me and I’ll pay for the shipping!
 
Play around with it for a while, if you still do t see the benefits ship it to me and I’ll pay for the shipping!
Honestly, I haven't given it much of a chance and can't remember how to set it up. It was given to me as a gift from a friend, so I'm reluctant to give it away or sell it cheap.

I guess the resistance the device provides to the CB when you when hit the head ball on your break when using this device is supposed to be the exact equivalent resistance you get in a real break shot, so the CB responds the exact same off the head ball as if you were hitting a real break shot?
 
Honestly, I haven't given it much of a chance and can't remember how to set it up. It was given to me as a gift from a friend, so I'm reluctant to give it away or sell it cheap.

I guess the resistance the device provides to the CB when you when hit the head ball on your break when using this device is supposed to be the exact equivalent resistance you get in a real break shot, so the CB responds the exact same off the head ball as if you were hitting a real break shot?

Pretty much yes. It allows you to practice technique first. Allows you to get a repeatable stroke without having to delay practice with having to rack. But the kicker is, patterns for balls and how they spread off the break has been known for quite a while. Knowing how to vary your break speed to compensate for the table conditions becomes that much easier. But your free to assume that the device is useless. SVB used it to develope his break technique. I guess he should have listened to you.
 
Don't you think that the more you do something, the better you become at it?

Stronger and more accurate and more options. That is how it changes your break shot.

I believe I stated that in my first sentence. It's just that it's easy to control the CB on the break when you don't have to worry about how good a spread you're getting on the object balls and/or whether you can consistently make balls on the break.

Anyone can break just hard enough to park the CB near the middle of the table, but that doesn't do much good unless you are getting a good spread and making balls, and I don't see where using that device will provide that feedback. I have one that was given to me as a gift, but I've rarely used it.
 
It might be a nice training aid, but would never be allowed in our poolroom. Constant breaking will create a far worse "cue ball break track" than normal play does, regardless of whether you use a break pad. If you want to do this to your home table's cloth, that's fine, but don't bring that gadget in to our poolroom! If you're going to allow someone to use that in a public poolroom, you might as well allow people to practice jump shots and masse shots all they want!

We allow our regulars to practice their jump shots, masse shots and trick shots requiring masse only when we are within a few weeks of recovering all our tables.

I use mine at home on my Gold Crown, it left no more break tracks on my table than what had already started accumulating. The reason I use is to improve my break speed thru technique, improve cue ball control on the break, and just to build muscle memory. I play mostly 8 ball, if the cue ball doesnt get kicked I know where its going to be on my first shot. I also dont need to worry about scratching in a side pocket when I go straight up the middle, something even very good players do. Even 10 minutes a week can make a world of difference for practicing your break. You have a great tool collecting dust.
 
I remember Bert Kinister featuring the BreakRak in one of his tapes. If Bert liked it, it must have been good.
 
Take my money Ceebee! Do you have a new model?

Do you have any ideas how to protect the cloth after repeated use? (White burn marks from CB line, breakig 9 ball)

Maybe a break pad and a break running pad
 
Personal experience - using a small break pad works wonders and I have zero evidence of one ball track. The pad is a good place to start I’d say.

It’s worth mentioning that part of (my) break practice centers on various games and strategies - including speed. Which means I change cue ball start locations minimizing a constant, exact track - and I have Simonis 860 Mocha cloth which seems to resist marks of any kind on any type of shot.

~ K


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Broken BreakRAK

Hello AlphaDog, have you sent me your BreakRAK, to be repaired with No Charge..?

The BreakRAK is warranted for LIFE, your life.

Anything can break. A Monkey can beat up a Ball Bearing, with a Rubber Hammer, if allowed to...
 
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