Buffalo's Pro Classic 2025

yea henry ornstein form nyc invented it and it took awhile to get accepted with some cheating along the way. but it made poker a tv sport.
 
Okay Filler won $40k in the Tourney and $100k in the Auction. Filler cost $41k in the Calcutta. Pretty safe to say he didn't buy any of himself in the auction. I would guess he paid his $2k entry.

So based on the assumptions and the numbers what should the buyer give Filler of the $150k Calcutta money? I have an opinion but just curious what others say.
 
one pocket for tv needs some new rules and game changes if it wants to grow. as well as the other pool games.
 
uh, nothing unless they have some kind of agreement. and if filler put nothing up why should he get something back.

if he didnt buy any of himself in the side action of the calcutta he wasnt part of the payout.

but how could the best player not buy any of himself in the calcutta.

if you make a big win on a superbowl bet how much should you send to the players?
 
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maha said:
uh, nothing unless they have some kind of agreement. and if filler put nothing up why should he get something back.

if he didnt buy any of himself in the side action of the calcutta he wasnt part of the payout.

but how could the best player not buy any of himself in the calcutta.

if you make a big win on a superbowl bet how much should you send to the players?
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I think you always throw the player a little jelly.

Dan’t have too but…

Lou Figueroa
 
if you win a lot at the black jack table or the craps table
do you tip the dealer /croupier(is that what the craps guy is called?)
 
Hungarian said:
Okay Filler won $40k in the Tourney and $100k in the Auction. Filler cost $41k in the Calcutta. Pretty safe to say he didn't buy any of himself in the auction. I would guess he paid his $2k entry.

So based on the assumptions and the numbers what should the buyer give Filler of the $150k Calcutta money? I have an opinion but just curious what others say.
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I'd guess something in the 20,000 - 25,000 range would be typical jelly on a 150,000 score.
 
bbb said:
if you win a lot at the black jack table or the craps table
do you tip the dealer /croupier(is that what the craps guy is called?)
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Correct, the person charge of a gaming table is in fact called a Croupier. But for fun we call the Croupier at the craps table a Crapper.
 
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casino employees, i dont generally as they are paid employees doing their job and have no influence on your results. people tip them from peer pressure or ignorance. that's money they should be keeping and investing for their future and family.

now if one came and told me they were dealing far down the deck or he was, then he deserved something from the winnings for helping influence the out come. but most times asked if he wanted to take a piece of the action with part of the risk.
most often they split that tip with all the dealers on that whole shift. so you are just tipping the crowd. he might get a penny of every dollar you give him.

i tip big to a waitress usually as i get individual attention. if i just get served like from a robot i adjust.

to each his own.
but saving face or conforming to the norm or appeasing the masses is ingrained in most people and cant see thru it.
 
Congratulations to Joshua Filler; he is the 2025 Buffalo's Pro Classic Champion.
He went undefeated in a field of champions to take home the biggest prize money payout in one pocket tournament history.
Great event for Tony Chohan with a hard-fought 2nd-place finish.
Fantastic shooting, guys.

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iusedtoberich said:
Yeah, that's why I think the two matches that the bracket shows ended both at exactly 7:12 am are suspect.

Players sometimes forget to put in the last game on their phone/tablet, even if they are keeping score themselves, and just walk away. Then when the TD updates the bracket, he puts the last game in. The match time will reflect the time the TD did it.
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The "Duration" times that DigitalPool shows for matches have never been accurate match lengths (from lag to final ball). The reason you mention above may well be part of the reason, but I don't think it is the only thing.

I tracked the 10 matches on Table 1 for this event. I just compared my calculated match time to the DigitalPool "Duration" for each of those 10 matches. The DigitalPool figure is longer than the actual match length for 8 of those 10 matches and shorter for 2 of the 10. Last night's (i.e., early today's) SVB/Woodward match is shown by DP (DigitalPool) at 11 hours and 36 minutes when the actual length was about 4 hours and 20 minutes. So that one is really an exception to the norm. The DP number exceeds the actual match length by the following percentages for 7 of the other matches: 6%, 6%, 8%, 11%, 12%, 13%, and 38%. And the DP number is 14% and 27% too low for the other 2 matches in those 10.

I don't know exactly when the "Duration" count starts or ends, but it is rarely a good figure for the actual match length.
 
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maha said:
casino employees, i dont generally as they are paid employees doing their job and have no influence on your results. people tip them from peer pressure or ignorance. that's money they should be keeping and investing for their future and family.

now if one came and told me they were dealing far down the deck or he was, then he deserved something from the winnings for helping influence the out come. but most times asked if he wanted to take a piece of the action with part of the risk.
most often they split that tip with all the dealers on that whole shift. so you are just tipping the crowd. he might get a penny of every dollar you give him.

i tip big to a waitress usually as i get individual attention. if i just get served like from a robot i adjust.

to each his own.
but saving face or conforming to the norm or appeasing the masses is ingrained in most people and cant see thru it.
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As a craps dealer in Vegas I am thankful many people don’t think like you. We are paid employees but we make minimum wage. And if you think dealers don’t know the game they are dealing better than most players you would be wrong. We make tips because we try and help players make money or because they appreciate our service dealing a clean game.
 
Hungarian said:
Okay Filler won $40k in the Tourney and $100k in the Auction. Filler cost $41k in the Calcutta. Pretty safe to say he didn't buy any of himself in the auction. I would guess he paid his $2k entry.

So based on the assumptions and the numbers what should the buyer give Filler of the $150k Calcutta money? I have an opinion but just curious what others say.
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I think Joe Long the lawyer staked him, backed him, bought him in the auction/Calcutta, and paid his entry fee and expenses. I could be wrong, but if I was a betting person, that's where my money would go. :)
 
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