Bushka Replica cues - Any owners please read this
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I'd check the pin. Role it without the shaft and watch the pin.
I don't think you can over-tighten a cue, not by hand anyway, as long as when you're tightening it you're conscious of the fact that at some point you're going to want to break it down again. A tight joint plays better.
That's why a big-pin with a phenolic insert offers an improved hit. You can cinch-up the shaft tighter.
As to the condition you're describing, either the insert isn't set properly in the shaft or the pin is askew. Regardless of either of those, the shaft is being brought into alignment by the mating surfaces of the shaft & handle.
Not totally without consequence as the joint has now just acquired an internal stress. Just one of the subtle differences btwn. production & custom.
That's why a big-pin with a phenolic insert offers an improved hit. You can cinch-up the shaft tighter.
As to the condition you're describing, either the insert isn't set properly in the shaft or the pin is askew. Regardless of either of those, the shaft is being brought into alignment by the mating surfaces of the shaft & handle.
Not totally without consequence as the joint has now just acquired an internal stress. Just one of the subtle differences btwn. production & custom.
I use to sell these cues, and once in a while I would have a problem with the shaft Pilot ( Wooden Nipple) being slightly over sized in diameter. This would cause the shaft not to seat properly in the Stainless Steel joint collar. If this is the problem there will be a wear spot on the shaft pilot were the high spot is located.
Hope this helps
dave sutton
Banned
take it to dennis searing...lol hes in fla . he'll get it rolling puuuurfectoooo
obv im jk but i would take it to qualified repair/maker
could be a number of things.
could be a reface
could be the pilot like craig said
could be the pin
one thing i hate is them cheapy cases that the but only fits pin down. not good for your cue with no joint protector. also ppl the put shaft joint down so they dont get chalk in their case... lol your cue is destroyed but your case is ok...derrrrr
tip down, screw up fellas
obv im jk but i would take it to qualified repair/maker
could be a number of things.
could be a reface
could be the pilot like craig said
could be the pin
one thing i hate is them cheapy cases that the but only fits pin down. not good for your cue with no joint protector. also ppl the put shaft joint down so they dont get chalk in their case... lol your cue is destroyed but your case is ok...derrrrr
tip down, screw up fellas
You bring up a good point. Cases are a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation in my opinion. You are correct that putting the butt in pin first can punch a hole in the bottom of the case and damage the pin, however, putting the butt in bumper first also has drawbacks being that there is friction between the case liner and the finish on the butt collar as it slides down into the case and this friction will wear the finish on the butt collar. Same with shafts. putting in tip first fills the liner with chalk and then continually rubs it into the shaft making it blue and a little rougher. Wiping the tip off before putting into the case helps but over time the chalk still builds up.
When joint protectors first started getting popular, I thought of them as a joke, more or less. Just something for someone to keep spending money on as they are so easily forgotten when leaving, with no real benefit. After thinking it this way for some time I finally realized that they can be a benefit if the cue is dropped and lands joint first, but the largest benefit, in my opinion is the protection of the finish when installing into a case. The butt can go in joint down with a lot less fear of friction damaging the edge of the joint and the shaft can go in joint end first with the same amount of protection. The cheap Chinese cases usually have a hard rubber or plastic insert in the top of the case lid, that I feel, does more damage to the cue than anything else. The cue fits into them far enough that the cap must be forced over the butts and shafts anytime the case is opened or closed and where the protruding cues relentlessly.
Dick
dave sutton
Banned
dick u suspect them cases are the reason ive fixed more bent meucci pin in my lifetime themn any other cue made.
standard issue weapons for most league players are cheap vynal cases and a meucci... prob more setups like that then any two combined
For one reason or another, I still like really well made box cases. It's just more difficult to find them nowadays
I, myself have never personally liked a box type case as I feel they are too bulky and heavy but truthfully, they are probably the best type of case for protection of a cue or trombone.
Dick
PMS
Banned
i'D RATHER HAVE AMERICAN MADE! :thumbup2:
I'm terribly sorry KJ, my friends and I are from another forum, I have owned these Balabushka replica's, hence my comment.
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FIRE-STARTER ALERT !!!
Please share with us how your statement adds anything positive to this thread. I don't see where it does but then I don't believe that was your intent either.
You may want to restrict your comments to the 'Main' section as they have no place here. Even if you WERE a CM, your comment would be considered out-of-line. If you want entertainment, turn on the TV.
dave sutton
Banned
well said............
PMS,
I appreciate your responding (as quickly as you did). It tells me that you understood where I was coming from. I happen to think that this is a pretty great site, as I believe you do as well. Unfortunately, the negativity gets to be too much at times.
I understand that if a couple of CMs want to go at it over a difference of opinion, about the best thing to do is step back and stay out of it. Any outside opinions are only adding fuel to the fire. They'll work it out and sometimes, they'll be better off for it (and of course, sometimes not).
It was only recently that the Varney issue was quite heated and it's probably still warm. I certainly can't claim to know what your intent was and in your mind you may have been honestly making an acclaim of the pride that you have in your cue. I can understand that. Hopefully you can understand where I was coming from.
Again, I appreciate your offering clarification as to your intent.
Your apology is graciously accepted. Please accept mine.
loose threading = bad construction
ill say this, iv'e seen many cues that when you thread on the shaft its loosey goosey all the way down to the last thread, it doesn't sit flush untill its fully seated. To me this is poor craftsmanship on the cuebuilders part. Every cue Joel ever built for me, when you started the shaft on the pin it was snug with no wobble within a few turns, and you actually had to make sure it was seated all the way it went on so perfect. If I put on a shaft and it wobbles all the way down till the last few threads I think thats crappy engineering. What happens is they tap the threads too big on the shaft, or they are using inserts and pins that don't have good enough quality control.
ill say this, iv'e seen many cues that when you thread on the shaft its loosey goosey all the way down to the last thread, it doesn't sit flush untill its fully seated. To me this is poor craftsmanship on the cuebuilders part. Every cue Joel ever built for me, when you started the shaft on the pin it was snug with no wobble within a few turns, and you actually had to make sure it was seated all the way it went on so perfect. If I put on a shaft and it wobbles all the way down till the last few threads I think thats crappy engineering. What happens is they tap the threads too big on the shaft, or they are using inserts and pins that don't have good enough quality control.
PMS
Banned
Hello KJ, I've researched your mention and the comment left by me has been edited.
What did and does burn me abit is that people are spending great amouts of money for a replica cue made in china worth about $100 bucks and for the same money spent for a piece of machine shop crap, they could be buying a cue so much better made by one of the guys right here in the USA (guys like you)
I never meant to step on anyones toes, I'm sorry. (i'm homesick, thats all)
here, see what i mean - http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=160034
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