Butt Diameter and a Few Other Questions...

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xtenglong

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I recently tried out one of my friend's Cuetec cues, and to me it felt as thought he diameter of the butt was smaller than usual, but when I asked another friend of mine about this, he said it was probably just the weight of the cue (the Cuetec cue was 18 oz, and my current cue is 19.5 oz). If this is the case, I think I might have to go find a place to try out different weights again. I want to know this because I recently placed a new order for a custom cue, and I'm trying to fine tune the cue as much as I can to my preferences. Is it possible to reduce the butt diameter a bit, or is there something about it that's not really recommended about doing that?

My second question is about the joint for the shaft. The guy "highly recommends" that I go with the 3/8x8 joint, and I can't see why I'd go with that over the more common 3/8x10. It's a metal-to-wood joint btw. Is there more than one kind of 3/8x10, or can I ask for that and then expect it to fit any 3/8x10 shaft I buy?

Currently I'm going with a steel pin, but I've been reading about the G10 pin. Are there any benefits to using this? Does it provide a better feel or something? Also, lets say the pin breaks, is it possible to replace the pin?
 
I'm located in New York. I might give you a call tomorrow. It's getting really late over here and I still have school really early tomorrow :(.
 
Cuetec cues are generally thinner than other cues out there. It is not the weight however weight sometimes can make a cue seem thinner or thicker. 3/8 8 is not a standard screw, 3/8 10, 3/8 11 are the two common 3/8 threads.
 
cuetecs thread might be an 3/8 8 but you won;t find any of the master cue makers using a thread like that, at least I have never seen any.
 
patrickjuhlin said:
cuetecs thread might be an 3/8 8 but you won;t find any of the master cue makers using a thread like that, at least I have never seen any.
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It's a 9MM coarse thread I think.
 
JoeyInCali said:
It's a 9MM coarse thread I think.
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What do you mean about that? I didn't ask if the Cuetec cues use a 3/8x8, only if they were a bit thinner in the butt diameter, because that's what it felt like to me when I was playing with it, but my friend said it was just a weight difference. I asked my guy why he recommends the 3/8x8 over the other common 3/8, and he told me that there is more contact with the 3/8x8 to provide a better feel, so as of now I'm going with a piloted flat bottom 3/8x8 joint. What are your opinions on this? should I got with this, or go with the 3/8x10? I realize going with a 3/8x10 will give me a wider variety of shafts i can use just, but I don't really mind about that detail. BTW, I'm getting a Bebot Bautista cue ^.^.

If the Cuetec cues are really thinner than usual cues, can somebody tell me what the exact diameter is? Also, where exactly would you measure the diameter? At the buttcap or at the handle?

Thanks for all the replies so far =]
 
Your friend my have been referring to the Uni-Loc Radial.
What got my attention was "so as of now I'm going with a piloted flat bottom 3/8x8 joint."???
It sounds like you need to make a decision here. You can have a flat-faced or you can have a piloted joint. You can't have both.

Butt diameter is measured at the widest part of the butt at the very bottom of the cue.

CueTec is indeed 9mm (9mm x 14) and in metric threads, that would be considered a 'coarse' thread. It's very close to 9mm x 1.75mm.

Good Luck with your choices.
 
KJ Cues said:
Your friend my have been referring to the Uni-Loc Radial.
What got my attention was "so as of now I'm going with a piloted flat bottom 3/8x8 joint."???
It sounds like you need to make a decision here. You can have a flat-faced or you can have a piloted joint. You can't have both.

Butt diameter is measured at the widest part of the butt at the very bottom of the cue.

CueTec is indeed 9mm (9mm x 14) and in metric threads, that would be considered a 'coarse' thread. It's very close to 9mm x 1.75mm.

Good Luck with your choices.
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So it's not possible to have both of them?? Why can't I just have the piloted in and flatten it at the top? Well if I really can't have the two of them, which one do you guys think is the better choice? From what I was told, the flat bottom will provide a better feel due to the fact that it contacts more of the shaft, and the piloted will help prevent me from misthreading.
 
The great thing about the building techniques of today, is that you can have ANY sized butt & still have any weight or ballance point...JER
 
xtenglong said:
So it's not possible to have both of them?? Why can't I just have the piloted in and flatten it at the top? Well if I really can't have the two of them, which one do you guys think is the better choice? From what I was told, the flat bottom will provide a better feel due to the fact that it contacts more of the shaft, and the piloted will help prevent me from misthreading.
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What did Bebot say?
Why not just trust his judgment? Tell him your concerns and discuss them.
 
Hmm, I haven't been talking to Bebot directly. I've been talking to Les the whole time. He's pretty well known on several forums, and I think he's also on this one too. Goes with the username "the_general". From what he says, he recommends the piloted 3/8x8 pin, but he didn't have anything to say about making it flatbottom piloted.

What is the butt diameter on most cues? And does anybody know the diameter of a Cuetec cue? What's the best way to accurately measure this on a cue?
 
oh, another question that I was wondering about was about the balance point. How is that measured exactly, and do you measure it with or without the shaft? What are the pros and cons of having it close to the front, middle, and rear?
 
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