Butt taper question

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I was wondering what type of taper this is:

Joint - .860
Above the wrap - 1.010
Middle of wrap. - 1.115
Bottom of wrap - 1.23
Buttcap. - 1.275

Thanks
 
I looks to being close to linear but, I don't know how long the sections are. Lay a straight edge on it to check.

It is close to .400 taper in 29 inches.

Kim
 
The cue is 28 7/8".

That still isn't enough information to give a for sure answer. Tapers are defined by locations and diameters. "Average" values can be used for the forearm, handle, butt sleeve, and butt cap lengths and a good guess given. But, if the length of the components in your cue vary from the averages used, the answer would be wrong.
 
I was wondering what type of taper this is:

Joint - .860
Above the wrap - 1.010
Middle of wrap. - 1.115
Bottom of wrap - 1.23
Buttcap. - 1.275

Thanks


To give a true assessment of the type of taper it is, one would have to know where exactly you took the measurements. And no, I don't mean in your home or garage.

Was the joint measurement at the very edge of the joint or 1/8" or 3/16" of an inch from the edge? Now, the interesting question is whether you took the wrap measurement at the end of the wrap on the wrap or at the end of the wrap just on the wood? Now we need to address the middle section of the wrap area. Were the caliper arms evenly divided over the center line of the wrap or were they to one side of the center line of the wrap? And if so, which side of the wrap; toward the joint or butt? When addressing the bottom of the wrap, the same question applies that we asked above the wrap. And lastly, the butt cap - did you take the measurement at the very end or 1" from the end? When asking questions regarding such important issues as knowing what type of taper is on a cue, exacting specification and their whereabouts are essential.

And lastly, what is the length of the butt section and how did you precisely achieve that measurement? Tape measure? Yardstick? Rope?
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I looks to being close to linear but, I don't know how long the sections are. Lay a straight edge on it to check.

It is close to .400 taper in 29 inches.

Kim

The prize winning non-condescending simple answer that is obviously most likely correct. :thumbup:





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Probably a run of the mill .straight taper with a fat joint.
Caliper the bottom of the forearm before the wrap starts as suggested.
Tell us the length of the forearm.
A straight edge would be useful too.
Or just eyeball the whole butt.
Do you see a pivot or the taper stays consistent.

If that is 1.010 at the bottom of the forearm at .860 joint, that sure sounds skinny down there .
Maybe it was sanded aggressively. It should be around 1.030 there.
 
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I love Joe! If you are trying to set a taper bar cut that number in half. If you measured the butt length where you measured with the calipers and it is a straight taper then it sounds like a .400 taper. Where wraps are on cues vary cue to cue so that measurement is no good without the distance from the joint to the wrap.
 
It does not sound like a compound angled taper, but just a straight angle taper.
 
What would the numbers be for a compound angled taper?

No set number.
I've seen them with skinny forearm and thick handle ( big production company ).
Most have fatter A-joint area imo. I have no clue why they did it that way.
Around .020 to .030 more than the usual straight taper.

Are you sure , yours is at 1.010 at the bottom of the forearm ( before the wrap channel ) ? How long is the forearm ?
 
Ok. Here we go

28 7/8" total length

.858 @ Top of joint
1.005 @ 11 15/16 Top of wrap
1.12 @ 18 1/4 Center of wrap
1.227 @ 24 3/16 Bottom of wrap
1.275 @ end of buttcap
 
Ok. Here we go

28 7/8" total length

.858 @ Top of joint
1.005 @ 11 15/16 Top of wrap
1.12 @ 18 1/4 Center of wrap
1.227 @ 24 3/16 Bottom of wrap
1.275 @ end of buttcap

1.275-.858/28.875=.01385 per inch
Multiply .01385 by 11 15/16 or 24.187 then add .858".
If the numbers agree, it's a straight taper.

Top of the wrap and middle of the wrap numbers are pointless.
We don't know if the wrap channel was done right or how thick the wrap is.
Bottom of the forearm number is more important.
 
So the numbers are close but dont match. Therefore not a straight taper.


Awesome. Thanks Joey.
 
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So the numbers are close but dont match. Therefore not a straight taper.


Awesome. Thanks Joey.

I think he sanded too much. :eek:
That bottom of the forearm is way too skinny.
1.275 is too fat for my liking. 1.227 at the bottom of the handle is realllllly faaaat in today's standards.
Sounds like that has an arc/flare.
 
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Actually, considering some margin of error....the measurements provided...and the most likely taper in general...I would bet it actually is a straight taper.



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Actually, considering some margin of error....the measurements provided...and the most likely taper in general...I would bet it actually is a straight taper.



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Bottom of the handle is too fat .
Skinny forearm and fat handle/sleeve.
Dual or compound or arc I think.
 
The measurements are from an old Mohawk cue I picked up on CL yesterday morning, if that explains anything.

And I can feel a taper change about 2/3's down the wrap.
 
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