Butt taper question

arcticmonkey

arcticmonkey

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Hello cuemakers,

I have a question about butt tapers. I've only bought a small number of cues since taking the game seriously so please bear that in mind.

I recently picked up a new cue and when I look straight down the cue from the bumper towards the tip I see that the butt tapers consistently (and gently) for the first 20 or inches from the bumper and then from there until the joint it tapers much more quickly and creates a small 'step' effect.

Is this normal? Is it common for a butt to taper so radically?

Hopefully the pictures show what I mean.
 

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That's a dual taper.
The handle area has a slight taper , then the forearm has more conical taper.
I like em that way.

I won't discuss it's merits because I'll be opening pandora's box.
 
Joey, I don't think that is a dual taper. Looks more like it was sanded at the joint to make the butt/shaft flush. Tough to see from pics, but looks a whole lot like it.
 
qbilder said:
Joey, I don't think that is a dual taper. Looks more like it was sanded at the joint to make the butt/shaft flush. Tough to see from pics, but looks a whole lot like it.
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I saw the same thing you saw, the step happens above the points and not at the A joint it looks. I was thinking someone finally got the points even and wasn't about to turn it down anymore and so just turned down the end of the nose? I didn't think of just sanding to a target joint diameter, but either way, it looks a bit strange to me.

Kelly
 
Joey, I don't think that is a dual taper. Looks more like it was sanded at the joint to make the butt/shaft flush. Tough to see from pics, but looks a whole lot like it.
Dear Lord.
My bad.
I guess it's multiple taper now.
 
yes,it looks a little drastic.i would say Kelly hit the nail on the head.looks like he tried to get the points even and cut way too much off.either that or just grabbed the wrong piece of sandpaper on the final sanding.:eek:
 
Thanks to all who replied.

My first instinct was that it was tapered this way to make the butt fit the shaft. If this was a cue you had bought would you go back to the seller with this issue?
 
I think you are all wrong. Sorry.:D
Looks more to me as if someone did NOT take a pass off the cue at all. Instead they just cut it for a sneaky and the low area above the points is where it was sanded (while spinning) to remove the cues logo...as in Dufferin, Valley, Mueller, etc. That created the low spot. It appears to me the taper is a bit of an hourglass shape there...so my theory may very well be correct.;) Just a thought.
 
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arcticmonkey said:
Thanks to all who replied.

My first instinct was that it was tapered this way to make the butt fit the shaft. If this was a cue you had bought would you go back to the seller with this issue?
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It almost looks like a dip. Perhaps it spun in a collet or some bare jaws and they dug into the wood, which required some heavy sanding to try and get rid of the damage and smooth it out. That is just more pure speculation ofcourse.

Just me personally, I would definitely ask about it. The reaction I got from the seller, the price, who made it, and how well it plays all would determine where I went from there.

Kelly
 
Varney Cues said:
I think you are all wrong. Sorry.:D
Looks more to me as if someone did NOT take a pass off the cue at all. Instead they just cut it for a sneaky and the low area above the points is where it was sanded (while spinning) to remove the cues logo...as in Dufferin, Valley, Mueller, etc. That created the low spot. It appears to me the taper is a bit of an hourglass shape there...so my theory my very well be correct.;) Just a thought.
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I just missed your post before my last one. Your thoughts are very close to my last suggestion and observation, so it coulld possibly be something like that!

Kelly
 
You may well be right because it was, in fact, converted from a Dufferin. Sorry to all for not mentioning that before but it had slipped my mind.

Varney Cues said:
I think you are all wrong. Sorry.:D
Looks more to me as if someone did NOT take a pass off the cue at all. Instead they just cut it for a sneaky and the low area above the points is where it was sanded (while spinning) to remove the cues logo...as in Dufferin, Valley, Mueller, etc. That created the low spot. It appears to me the taper is a bit of an hourglass shape there...so my theory may very well be correct.;) Just a thought.
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is the handle wood?it looks more like a custom than a sneaky.either way i would send it back.
 
It definately looks like it has a significant dip right above the end of the points like Varney stated...probably to repair damage...
 
Yes, the handle is wood. It's a custom, converted from a Dufferin.

masonh said:
is the handle wood?it looks more like a custom than a sneaky.either way i would send it back.
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