That's why my nick name used to be Krazy Kevin
I think a lot of what I said got misconstrued...
Yes wood moves... When it changes environments, when it's stressed etc..
What I was saying is that looking at the outside of wood it's virtually impossible to know how likely it is to move over the long term.
The stress on the wood can be severe or little... The less it is the less it is likely to move even when changing environments.
Turning it down slowly over time allows the wood to adjust to the stress between turns and then you turn out the slight warping on the next go around, that doesn't change the fact, that THAT piece of wood is stressed.
The direction of the stress has an effect on how and under what conditions the warp will occur as well.
Turning it down faster DOES NOT change whether or not the wood is stressed or not and it makes stressed wood MORE likely to warp.
What it does do is weed out the wood that is MORE stressed because you can't use it when it warps. So you end up with cues with wood that is less stressed.
That's ALL I was saying.
I wasn't trying to say that all cuemakers should start turning their shaft wood on a single pass. That's ridiculous.
All I said was that since the core wood doesn't get a lot of time put into it when cue makers core and hard rock maple usually isn't that expensive, that turning it down faster and throwing out the pieces that warp more severely might help to prevent the few that DO warp later down the road from doing so more easily...
There's really nothing crazy about that concept...
Jaden
p.s. As to why I went there...The op had made the comment about butts being warped saying that shafts warping is understandable (probably since they are not as expensive to replace) and asked if he should just go to production cues.
Custom cues have their place and are all I play with anynmore, you won't find more beautiful cues or be able to get exactly what you want from production cues, but IMO because they are made how they are and advantage is that they are less likely to warp (the butts, not necessarily the shafts).
I think a lot of what I said got misconstrued...
Yes wood moves... When it changes environments, when it's stressed etc..
What I was saying is that looking at the outside of wood it's virtually impossible to know how likely it is to move over the long term.
The stress on the wood can be severe or little... The less it is the less it is likely to move even when changing environments.
Turning it down slowly over time allows the wood to adjust to the stress between turns and then you turn out the slight warping on the next go around, that doesn't change the fact, that THAT piece of wood is stressed.
The direction of the stress has an effect on how and under what conditions the warp will occur as well.
Turning it down faster DOES NOT change whether or not the wood is stressed or not and it makes stressed wood MORE likely to warp.
What it does do is weed out the wood that is MORE stressed because you can't use it when it warps. So you end up with cues with wood that is less stressed.
That's ALL I was saying.
I wasn't trying to say that all cuemakers should start turning their shaft wood on a single pass. That's ridiculous.
All I said was that since the core wood doesn't get a lot of time put into it when cue makers core and hard rock maple usually isn't that expensive, that turning it down faster and throwing out the pieces that warp more severely might help to prevent the few that DO warp later down the road from doing so more easily...
There's really nothing crazy about that concept...
Jaden
p.s. As to why I went there...The op had made the comment about butts being warped saying that shafts warping is understandable (probably since they are not as expensive to replace) and asked if he should just go to production cues.
Custom cues have their place and are all I play with anynmore, you won't find more beautiful cues or be able to get exactly what you want from production cues, but IMO because they are made how they are and advantage is that they are less likely to warp (the butts, not necessarily the shafts).
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