Buying orSelling a cue w/o using Pay-Pal
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I'm sure there are other options that are just as good, but one I have used a couple of times is a Postal Money Order. They must be cashed at a Post Office and they are pretty darn safe.Rasta said:
pay pal
you need to find out the sellers az reputation. i always tell the buyer if they have any doubt, post a thread asking for those who have dealt with me their opinion. pay pal is usually a fater way to get your money, negotiat the 3% if need be. bank check, money order or postal money order. when ever i recieve a money order ,i have my credit union verify the money order is good and then ship cue, that way i don't have to wait for it to clear. you could also use an escrow service like profecient if every one is that nervous. jmo
you need to find out the sellers az reputation. i always tell the buyer if they have any doubt, post a thread asking for those who have dealt with me their opinion. pay pal is usually a fater way to get your money, negotiat the 3% if need be. bank check, money order or postal money order. when ever i recieve a money order ,i have my credit union verify the money order is good and then ship cue, that way i don't have to wait for it to clear. you could also use an escrow service like profecient if every one is that nervous. jmo
i've done one deal here using a personal check. i guess i coulda got "got" ( a phrase i like to use) but things went smoothly. but i guess just checking on their reputatino here is all you can do. if things go wrong you have their address, and you can print info about the deal out and maybe look into it legaly
the best bet for protecting the buyer and the seller would be sending the cue for escrow with Scot sherbine at proficient billiards.. it cost about 50 bucks.. but once he recieves the cue, he will take pictures and go over it with a fine tooth comb and find any imperfections and do all the measurements and let the buyer know exactly what he will be recieving..
their main website..
http://www.proficientbilliards.com/
and a link to their escrow page..
http://www.proficientbilliards.com/services/escrowservice.htm
chris
their main website..
http://www.proficientbilliards.com/
and a link to their escrow page..
http://www.proficientbilliards.com/services/escrowservice.htm
chris
Rasta said:
in my opinion.. they dont protect the buyer at all.. once you send it out.. they can have it cashed before you even realize that there was any misdeed..
and a person can cash them at the post office and not even need to wait for them to clear the bank..
chris
Rasta said:
If you can't figure out a way to work it out otherwise, you can use Proficient's escrow service for $50.
If you are concerned about a scam, as a seller you want a verifiable bank check from a national bank, like Bank of America, a direct transfer to your account, or a US Postal Money order you can cash immediately upon receipt. As a buyer, you want to trust the seller 100% or pay after you've received the cue. Either way, someone is exposed.
Chris
postal money order
Yes postal money orders are safe for the buyer.....if the deal goes south on the buyer....the buyer needs to fill out form 6401 which costs about $3.00 and the post office can track the check....the best way to do business is e-check through paypal imo........
Rasta said:
Yes postal money orders are safe for the buyer.....if the deal goes south on the buyer....the buyer needs to fill out form 6401 which costs about $3.00 and the post office can track the check....the best way to do business is e-check through paypal imo........
They are just like cash, but they need to be cashed at the Post Office according to my local Bank of America bank. You have a receipt with the postal money order when you purchase one and if it gets lost you can have it replaced by the post office after they run their check on it based on the serial number on your receipt. They don't cost much either.Rasta said:
Hi Rasta,
I've also used international banking (this requires having an IBAN bank account number) to pay for items bought abroad. It doesn't offer anything like the paypal claims, but they don't charge 4% either. What is does do is create a good "paper trail" about when and to whom the buyer sent the money, which creates additional security for the buyer.
gr. Dave
I've also used international banking (this requires having an IBAN bank account number) to pay for items bought abroad. It doesn't offer anything like the paypal claims, but they don't charge 4% either. What is does do is create a good "paper trail" about when and to whom the buyer sent the money, which creates additional security for the buyer.
gr. Dave
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Rasta
Find an AZer to be a 3rd party on the deal. You both send the items to the 3rd party who will then ship them respectively.
Hope this helps
Find an AZer to be a 3rd party on the deal. You both send the items to the 3rd party who will then ship them respectively.
Hope this helps
rackem said:No escrow!No deal.
If it was me.
Is this an international deal?
I have not come to that conclusion yet. I understand the seller's concerns, and want to do my best to alleviate them, just not by exposing myself to additional risks. Having confidence in a transaction is a two way street, IMO.
Thanks for everyone's input.
Good Rolls,
Rasta
Rasta said:
Never used COD to buy or sell a cue.
I've been able to do transactions by by providing or receiving mutually agreeable AZ references. In the end, witout comfort and trust, it's hard to do a transaction regardless of payment meothod.
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Jazz said:
I've asked for references, and have been given one, but the seller (this transaction) was the buyer for that transaction. That doesn't really offer any relative information, IMO. I think it is important to note that that reference was positive.
Mind you, I've no reason to believe anything is amiss. I'm just trying to be careful.
Good Rolls,
Rasta
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There is always risk...
Someone is exposed on the deal almost all of the time. I suppose an escrow service is the safest manner, but both must agree on it and the cost of the service must be absorbed by someone...usually the buyer. I agree with the consensus on here that there has to be a relationship of trust for both parties. That can come through 3rd party references, but it is no guarantee. If it doesn't feel OK in your gut, just don't do it.
Joe
Someone is exposed on the deal almost all of the time. I suppose an escrow service is the safest manner, but both must agree on it and the cost of the service must be absorbed by someone...usually the buyer. I agree with the consensus on here that there has to be a relationship of trust for both parties. That can come through 3rd party references, but it is no guarantee. If it doesn't feel OK in your gut, just don't do it.
Joe
If you offered Escrow and the guy said no! I would not deal with the guy at all. Take this from a guy Who has been screwed out of a $2500 cue. On my first day on Az ya live and ya learn only deal with people with a good rep to that helps. I wish evey one ya did not no would ask me for escrow whats 50 bucks when you could lose your 2,000 dollar cue. JMO Also to bad all this good green rep people give ya now is such a joke don't go by that rep under there name.