C J Wiley vs Mike Sigel 1992

Mike Siegel hit one of the best shots I've ever seen here:


How did he measure the track to the 9-ball? It looked like he pointed to diamond #1 on the long rail with his stick. If the 9-ball didn't drop he still had a perfect safety. Amazing.

I'm also curious how CJ measured his kick shot here:


You can see CJ measuring some tracks with his stick. I don't think any of the systems I know would work there. However, I noticed that both the CB and OB are about 1 diamond from the right hand long rail, and the CB and OB are 5 diamonds apart. My initial aim point would split that distance, or 2.5 diamonds, and then I would adjust to about 2.6 diamonds(towards the OB) to make the hit--because the OB is closer to the right hand long rail than the CB.
 
Last edited:
Mike Siegel hit one of the best shots I've ever seen here:


How did he measure the track to the 9-ball? It looked like he pointed to diamond #1 on the long rail with his stick. If the 9-ball didn't drop he still had a perfect safety. Amazing.

I'm also curious how CJ measured his kick shot here:


You can see CJ measuring some tracks with his stick.
IMO both those were just what i call 'experience shots'. I don't think a lot of calculation went into either one.
 
Surprised Sigel chose the two rail kick in the first game. I thought the one rail was viable to even pocket the ball. The way the table was laying i thought he should have gone for it. And if he was to go two rails, then maybe kick the object ball up the table instead of across? Then again, he's captain Hook, so what do I know.
 
I never knew Jay's nickname was...

Toupee Jay!!! 🤣🤣

Sorry Jay! Hope you have a sense of humor about it. All in fun.
Jay has always been cool with his nickname far as I know. He’s not one who wouldn't speak up if he didn’t like it. That’s one thing I really like about Jay-there’s no guess work where you stand with him. I really respect that about him.

Speaking only for myself, I love my nickname and have never taken offense to it. I think nicknames in pool are cool.

Best
Fatboy🤠
 
I never knew Jay's nickname was...

Toupee Jay!!! 🤣🤣

Sorry Jay! Hope you have a sense of humor about it. All in fun.
I’m slow. I can’t tell if you did or didn’t know that Jay‘s nickname is Toupee Jay. I’m saying this because some AZ poster pointed at Jay one time at the DCC and said he looked like Toupee Jay. He has no idea that Jay Helfert was Toupee Jay before Pool Hall Junkies was ever conceived.
 
IMO both those were just what i call 'experience shots'. I don't think a lot of calculation went into either one.

I would disagree. Using the proper angle (i.e. tangent line) coming off that 6 and using the right amount of English that shot is very doable. Now, using the right amount of English and speed, so you don't masse or you masse on purpose, is a different story - that takes experience.
 
Did he play that 9 ball on the case game? He had a decent kick safe there he passed on.
 
Did he play that 9 ball on the case game? He had a decent kick safe there he passed on.
I wondered that too the first time I watched it but if you replay it you will see he walked down to the end of the table and lined up the combination with his cue. He played the kick combination.
 
I would disagree. Using the proper angle (i.e. tangent line) coming off that 6 and using the right amount of English that shot is very doable. Now, using the right amount of English and speed, so you don't masse or you masse on purpose, is a different story - that takes experience.
What i meant was they weren't using some system and doing calculations. Both of them have the pre-requisite 'half a million balls' under their belt. They see these shots come up and just know by experience and feel what to do.
 
Back
Top