Just skimmed a few posts and a quick note I want to add... I don't believe I mocked CTE or other system users anywhere. That is JB's interpretation of my posts.
Like I said before, if a system user puts up a video or says xyz method is great, a feel user is entitled to the exact same privilege.
JB in your YouTube text description of your video I feel you are putting words in my mouth.
For sure I don't believe in systems and that is crystal clear. But I'm not calling anyone an idiot for using them.
I feel if anything I am being called an idiot for using feel in this thread.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't you say just a day or so ago that the system users can go back to looking for their "magic bullet"? Or something like that?
Entitled is an interesting word choice. As if someone were segregating you somehow. Let's examine for a moment why this section exists if we are going to say who has the right to post here and what they should post.
Feel as a way to aim is the default position and has been for all humans since the beginning of humanity. Sorry to be so broad but we use our senses, mainly sight to align ourselves and our weapons towards the target. So being the default method that every human possesses innately from birth, barring defects that affect it like blindness, it's quite obvious that feel exists, is pervasive, and of course works. Otherwise we would not be here and discussing it.
However throughout history man has discovered methods that both enhance and supplant feel. And for those discoveries people have been alternately burned at the stake and celebrated. So too is the same cycle perpetuated on this forum in regards to aiming methods.
Sometimes throughout history those who had ideas about how to advance the knowledge of man had to hide or find protection in order to continue their research, to be free of persecution. This is why the aiming forum was created, to get it off the main forum and allow those who wish to discuss aiming methods thoroughly to do so without persecution and in peace.
That's my view of it at least. So now we come back to entitlement and what should be posted here.
Well I have no problem if you want to post a video of yourself running balls and talk about aiming by feel. But in my opinion you should describe what's going on in your mind for the viewers and readers so that they can understand what "feel" is to you. That is a discussion of AIMING which is the basis of this forum section.
You say that it's not productive to compare players but then you apparently have now adopted Bustamante as the poster player for feel now that he has said he uses feel to shoot. But what Busty didn't say was how he got to the point where he just sees it. You have no idea what, if any, methods he used to bring himself to the point he is at. As with Shane and Efren, all players make their own discoveries of helpful and objective methods through a HUGE amount of table time and experience.
So you post a video with the title "C" Player uses "Feel" to beat the ghost 9-1" and then pretend that it's not meant to be provocative. You say you are entitled to post such videos and show that "feel" works as well to aim with. Ok, we all know that feel works, we simply don't agree that it works well, nor do we agree that it's particularly easy to replicate from player to player. What feel is to you may be totally different to the next person, and by that I mean TOTALLY different.
But what is your video supposed to prove? That all it takes to be able to run four balls is feel and time? That's a given. In fact all it takes to run nine balls consistently is feel and time, assuming that all the other components are also there. But at what level of consistency? Missing a ball out of every 30? Missing a ball out of every 50?
This is the crux of the debate. Do aiming systems help players to improve their consistency? By putting up a video with a mocking title, and it is mocking the way you wrote it, you seem to say no, doesn't help, see I got there without a system.
But you actually didn't get anywhere yet because running four balls isn't honestly an accomplishment worth using as a comparison against anything unless you honestly believe that it's a major benchmark. And if you do then honestly it's easy to blow it away by posting a video that shows "C-player beats the ghost using CTE/SEE/ULTIMATE AIMING/DTD/GHOST BALL, etc...." Then where do you go?
You want to use pros and what they say? Ok a while back I came across a post by Rodney Morris on Facebook beaming because he beat the 12 ball ghost. A bit under that post he explained that he was using CTE and that he credited that for helping him to better see the shots. I reposted that information on here to give an example of a pro who testified that, as good as he already was, he felt that now he is even better because of learning another way to aim. Many aiming system opponents ridiculed it. But my question to you is why is Bustamante's statement or John Schmidt's valid to you and Morris, Moore, Appleton, Van Boeing, Shuffett, Wiley, and Burford's statements not valid?
They are both right. All roads lead to Rome. But your video and the way you titled it for this forum is the equivalent of saying look guys I am on the way to Rome as well and without a map when you are in fact only a short distance into the journey. In effect look at me I don't need a map or guidance I will get there on my own. And you very well might but it's not good advice to tell people to just start walking when in fact things like maps are easily available.
Generally people who want to say they did something and by what method have done something worthwhile enough that people are genuinely interested in learning the process behind the accomplishment. So when you say you are entitled to post your videos here about feel aiming then may I suggest you use it to actually post videos about the process rather than running out four balls which just about any half-decent player with an aiming system can duplicate or surpass with ease in a far shorter time than it took you to achieve it.
You say your method of aim is "feel". I noticed in a few of your posts, you say it like its a badge of honor and your not the only one I get that impression from also. I am not picking on you personally but just posting an observation. I am not going to critic your level of play because if I did the next poster can critic mine and so on and so on until SVB comes on here and trashes everyone's game
