Calcutta Cease & Desist Order in Washington State

Truly shocking that the Washington State Gambling Commission, which works alongside regulated corporate gaming interests and the state taxman, is trying to stop unregulated, illegal gambling involving thousands of dollars in under the table, unreported cash payments :eek:

In other news, dog bites man and water is wet
 
Baby Huey said:
Wagering vs gambling. When you run a Calcutta, you are operating a gambling operation. I'm not passing judgement but mano y' mano is very different than side betting.
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One of the rules concerning Calcuttas in my state is that only the bettors are entitled to even a penny of the pool. Some places tried to pay a TD out of the pool and received strong warnings, maybe other punishments.

Hu
 
fastone371 said:
The dude running the calcutta has nothing to do with any arrangements between the player and the calcutta buyer. Around here if someone buys me in the calcutta it is up to me to go find that person if I intend to buy 1/2 of myself back. The only people who are privy to the arrangement between the player and the calcutta buyer are the 2 involved unless someone talks.
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Not the way it works here.
 
dendweller said:
Been my experience that the guy running the auction, which take way too long, gets the highest bid and then asks the person being bid on if they want to take half.
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Wow!!!! That's a bunch of dickin around, sounds like they need to start the calcutta the day before. Its strange way tondo it because the arrangement is between the player and the calcutta buyer, nothing to do with the guy running the calcutta.
 
fastone371 said:
Wow!!!! That's a bunch of dickin around, sounds like they need to start the calcutta the day before. Its strange way tondo it because the arrangement is between the player and the calcutta buyer, nothing to do with the guy running the calcutta.
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They may do becuase in these events, the player has the right to take half, the winning bidder can't decline.
 
Calcuttas are essentially Pari Mutual wagering. Very similar to horse racing. The state wants to control it. If you had players post money into a pot and play for it, it's quite a different thing.
 
they have to have the auctioneer do it that way or the winning bidder might not give the shooter his end.
its only between the people that the winning bidder let have a piece.
 
most states have laws against running any kind of gambling where someone takes a piece of the prize out. as in most calcuttas.

some let them be if all the prize money is given to winners. some dont care.
 
dendweller said:
They may do becuase in these events, the player has the right to take half, the winning bidder can't decline.
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It's always the player's right to take half, but in all the calcuttas I've been to, and that is a whole bunch of them in many cities and states, I can't recall the auctioneer immediately asking the player if they want their half each time each and every time they get sold during the auction.

It makes me wonder if they are doing it in that area because they have had a problem with one or more bidders trying to pull some moves, like ducking out and trying to avoid the player they bought until after the tournament starts so they don't have to give up half to them, and then trying to say "well the player never came to me and asked" or some other similar type situation, and so the auctioneer now does this to prevent that bidder/s from being able to try to pull their move. And maybe it is a high action bidder/s that bids big and they don't want to just ban him/them, or they are scared of them, etc.

Whatever that calcutta auctioneer's reason for asking each and every player if he wants his half immediately after he is sold, it is not what is typically done most places.
 
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that has happened as well and the shooter lost out.

and one i know of where the winner wouldn't give the shooter half so the shooter said that's fine then i will make sure i dont win.

you do have to be careful who you buy as they have a big hold on you especailly as it gets close and can make a deal with some one else.
 
maha said:
that has happened as well and the shooter lost out.

and one i know of where the winner wouldn't give the shooter half so the shooter said that's fine then i will make sure i dont win.

you do have to be careful who you buy as they have a big hold on you especailly as it gets close and can make a deal with some one else.
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There are a handful of flaky moves that can happen with Calcuttas. I have seen them ask players if they want half, if the player is even present. I have seen them not ask. I have seen bidders refuse to sell the player half. I have seen players get sudden spasms when this happens. Lots of potential for things to go south with calcuttas. While not common in pool, I like side pots. Anybody that wants in says so when they register, the money is paid, the name is written down, done deal!

I always bought into the cash options. One day I was a little late but still before a benchrest match started. The man running it came by where I was setting up, "$20." Entrance fees were all over the place so no way to know. I said "what about the cash option?" "You paid it." "Oh, that would be the nonoptional cash option." I was ragging Don, I was buying in as usual. Just paying my dues then, I didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of cashing. However, I did plan on cashing eventually and I wanted people to remember I had always bought in, I paid my dues.

I have seen pool events with a side pot and a Calcutta, you could spend a fortune before you hit a ball! Depending on the size of the field I like the side pot entry to be $20-$50. Not huge but big enough to be worth winning.

Hu
 
Most calcuttas are subject to a rake, and you can’t collect that in the US without a license. The biggest degenerate gamblers are poker and pool players, so I’m not surprised to see such a visceral reaction to this on here.
 
Poolplaya9 said:
It's always the player's right to take half, but in all the calcuttas I've been to, and that is a whole bunch of them in many cities and states, I can't recall the auctioneer immediately asking the player if they want their half each time each and every time they get sold during the auction.

It makes me wonder if they are doing it in that area because they have had a problem with one or more bidders trying to pull some moves, like ducking out and trying to avoid the player they bought until after the tournament starts so they don't have to give up half to them, and then trying to say "well the player never came to me and asked" or some other similar type situation, and so the auctioneer now does this to prevent that bidder/s from being able to try to pull their move. And maybe it is a high action bidder/s that bids big and they don't want to just ban him/them, or they are scared of them, etc.

Whatever that calcutta auctioneer's reason for asking each and every player if he wants his half immediately after he is sold, it is not what is typically done most places.
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That move is countered by the player not buying half of themselves and dumping them by losing to a guy who chops the tournament money with them!
 
Crasher said:
Most calcuttas are subject to a rake, and you can’t collect that in the US without a license. The biggest degenerate gamblers are poker and pool players, so I’m not surprised to see such a visceral reaction to this on here.
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There are so many ways for these degenerates to gamble now, why can't they just leave it out of pool? They are parasites.
 
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