"Call Everything" Rules

push&pool said:
why do so many bar players (who are usually bad or average) insist on calling every single thing? It makes no sense. A lower player can rarely make the shot exactly as planned. Someone who's a good player can win this way even easier. In the lands where i come from people insist on slop rules (call nothing), and there's much more logic behind it, as bad players can actually win this way against better ones. Do "call everything" bangers just like losing as fast as possible or is there something i'm not aware of? :confused:
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PUSH&POOL

maybe it is because that is the rule in a lot of bars.
It is suposed to avoid arguements.
Some time it does, some time it does not.
Not sure it is a measure of their manhood as some seem to think.
I wonder if any of the bangers feel all superior to the guys that play differently than they do?
I hope not.

SLIM
 
PaulieB said:
I think in some cases they do it because of ego. They feel that not calling the shots means that the game is too easy. Real men don't play slop rules, blah blah blah. They get so bad sometimes that I've even had someone try to say my shot wasn't good because I didn't call that the object ball was going to brush the rail as it rolled into the corner pocket I called. He tried to tell me that technically it was a bank shot because it touched the rail before it went in...
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Thats kind of thing that ticks me off. Especially when they want u to call "clean or dirty" on a ball thats partially blocking a pocket, but then when they shoot and brush the rail as you said and its all good to them. Bar players are stubborn, i often hear them rant about how pro rules with ball in hand are for "pussies", and "bar rules" is how real players shoot... one of them pulled a safety by just barely pushing the cueball behind a sitting ball in the middle of a table without going to a rail....ya thats what real skill is made of...so i made my point by scratching the cue ball in the side pocket because the 8 ball was in the kitchen and i had a couple balls left, i was in a bad spot, and he had none...a foul on my part, but still to his disadvantage...and i said "this is why bar rules suck, because their easy to take advantage of, have fun in the kitchen" he cussed up a storm and walked out
 
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I'm new here so I hope I'm not upsetting anyone but, I'll play anyway that is established before the break. I perfer call everything because in my opion it shows more skill and makes things more interesting. I strugle with making the desision of weather to call a carom off a ball partially blocking a pocket or to call it clean. But that to me makes it more interesting. Players that bang everything hard and when something somewhere goes in, and think they made a shot. Well I'd rather not play them. But I will if the price is right. Most of my play is with an old friend, and its fun to needle each other over having to make a call. If a shot doesn't go as intended we just sit down, honor system kind of thing. Bad speller and long winded. I know.
 
"Call everything" (like whether the ball bumps a rail, or bumps another ball)...

This was first invented by a sore loser many years ago.
Basically his opponent made the shot. The sore loser was mad and couldn't handle it.
So he said "You didn't call that bump off the other ball!"

His only goal was to cheat the opponent out of his successful shot and get back to the table.
This "rule" caught on (despite not being in any rulebooks) because the world is full of sore losers.
Decades later we still see people arguing over little bumps and rail touches.

It makes the game less enjoyable because it demands too much perfection from the shooter.
On the other hand, some feel call nothing makes the game less enjoyable because it demands nothing at all.
It depends on the game too.
 
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