Can a slightly warped Joss butt be repaired (slightly warped near the joint)?

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justinb386

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Can a slightly warped Joss butt be repaired (slightly warped near the joint)? Is there a way to straighten out a slightly warped butt? It is very slightly warped near the joint, and the cue has a stainless steal joint on it. If this is possible (and is guaranteed that the repair will work, or no charge), than how much would this kind of repair cost, and how long would it take for the butt to be straightened out? Thank you for any help about this problem that I have with my Joss cue.
 
No, but if it is only a slight warp, it won't affect the play of the cue. The only time it matters is if you are trying to sell it.
 
Statements retracted. See post by poolguy4u below.



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Chopdoc said:
I bought a cue from him months ago and the deal was perfect, cue as described. He was quite honest with me and followed up as well.

I watched the thread regarding this matter of a sale gone wrong and as far as I know the buyer was refunded. It looked like the seller simply made a mistake.

Indeed it looks like he has a lot to learn about pool cues, buying them, and selling them. I have seen him asking many questions about cues in the forum. That looks to me like he is trying to learn, as long as that it true I don't disparage a person for what they don't know. Frankly I don't know him beyond what I have stated here and I have no horse in this race.

He asked about repairing the cue in several places. He got several answers. IMHO he should to accept Ryan's answer on the matter.

Personally I would buy again from him especially after seeing the recent deal regarding this cue. Why? As far as I know he refunded the money and took the cue back when the seller (or the cue if you like) had an issue. That's not a negative in my book, that's a positive.

This cue has a bent forearm. Flat out that's a bad issue. Time to move on from this cue and IMHO issues regarding the sale of it since as far as we can tell there was a refund and he has the bent cue back. Sucks for him but I think it's pretty low to bash him while he's just trying to find out if it's fixable, it's kicking a guy when he's already down IMHO.

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The guy did not refund my money. He did nothing but lie from the beginning.

I got a refund only because I filed a dispute through paypal. He said he was moving out of state and needed the cue sent back right away. Sounds fishy to me so I filed a dispute and won and got my refund.

If you knew the whole story you'd stay out of it for sure. The guy is a liar.



From Paypal---

Dear poolguy4u,

We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.

We were able to recover $210.00 USD and this amount has been credited to
you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.

If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.


If the seller's account has insufficient funds to complete the refund owed
to you, please be assured that we will take appropriate action against the
seller's account, which may include limitation of the seller's account
privileges.
 
poolguy4u said:
The guy did not refund my money. He did nothing but lie from the beginning.

I got a refund only because I filed a dispute through paypal. He said he was moving out of state and needed the cue sent back right away. Sounds fishy to me so I filed a dispute and won and got my refund.

If you knew the whole story you'd stay out of it for sure. The guy is a liar.



From Paypal---

Dear poolguy4u,

We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.

We were able to recover $210.00 USD and this amount has been credited to
you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.

If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.


If the seller's account has insufficient funds to complete the refund owed
to you, please be assured that we will take appropriate action against the
seller's account, which may include limitation of the seller's account
privileges.
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Well then I retract what I said about it. I'm not sure how I missed that, I thought it was settled with a refund from the seller. My apologies..
 
Poolguy does not know what he is talking about. Paypal did not force me to refund the buyer (poolguy). That automated email from paypal makes it sound different than it really is. I was honest, and told paypal that I received the cue back from the buyer (within a couple minutes of receiving it in the mail), and I had paypal give the buyer a complete refund. Poolguy is trying to make it sound like I was trying to rip him off, when I was nothing but honest with the buyer and paypal the entire time. So it was me that gave the buyer a complete refund (not paypal). I could have done nothing, and waited for paypal to eventually confirm that the tracking number said that the cue was delivered back to me, but I logged in to my paypal account (as soon as I received the cue back), and I requested paypal to give the buyer a complete refund. There really was no need for the buyer to file a paypal complaint, because I was really fast at replying to his 1st unhappy email (through AZ Billiards), and said that I was very sorry about the mistake that I must have made, and than I would give him a refund as soon as I received the cue back from him. He did not like that, so he decided to file a paypal complaint, and then expected me to refund his money before sending the cue back to me. I am a good honest person, and I handled the situation the same way that any other professional seller would have handled an unhappy buyer. I was always very fast to reply to emails, and I was very fast to reply to the paypal complaint (that was never really needed in the 1st place). I notified paypal that I received the cue back on the same day that I received it back (actually within the same couple of minutes). I did not waste any time before telling paypal that I received the cue back, so I was honest about that (and I tried my best to be honest about everything else).
 
Take it to the Main forum if you don't mind.
This isn't the place to argue Pay Pal buyer/ seller crappola.

Cue Makers and Repair men don't argue with each other.
We are just a bunch of nice guys trying to all love each other.
 
I am really sorry. Just trying to defend myself. It really hurts to be wrongly talked about. It was poolguy that should not have posted about me on this thread (on questions for a cue maker). Sorry for replying to it on here. If there was a way for me to delete my thread here, than I would, so this guy would stop talking about me.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Take it to the Main forum if you don't mind.
This isn't the place to argue Pay Pal buyer/ seller crappola.

Cue Makers and Repair men don't argue with each other.
We are just a bunch of nice guys trying to all love each other.
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Key-word here being 'trying'. It ain't always easy.

Terry, on the one hand I tend to agree with you that the Paypal BS needs to stay in the Main, but you
should be mindful that "justinb386" is the OP and by rights, can lead HIS thread in any direction he chooses.
He didn't introduce the Pp thing, he was merely asking a legitimate and civil question.
The impatient buyer did, as well as try to discredit the OP (seller).
IMO, if 'poolguy4u' thinks something is 'fishy' here, he might want take a sniff in his own kitchen.

Doc, you didn't have to delete your post.
You gave an honest/truthful opinion based on personal experience with the seller.
The truth should never be deleted.

Y'all have a good day.

KJ
 
KJ Cues said:
Key-word here being 'trying'. It ain't always easy.

Terry, on the one hand I tend to agree with you that the Paypal BS needs to stay in the Main, but you
should be mindful that "justinb386" is the OP and by rights, can lead HIS thread in any direction he chooses.
He didn't introduce the Pp thing, he was merely asking a legitimate and civil question.
The impatient buyer did, as well as try to discredit the OP (seller).
IMO, if 'poolguy4u' thinks something is 'fishy' here, he might want take a sniff in his own kitchen.

Doc, you didn't have to delete your post.
You gave an honest/truthful opinion based on personal experience with the seller.
The truth should never be deleted.

Y'all have a good day.

KJ
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Tap, Tap, Tap
 
KJ Cues said:
Key-word here being 'trying'. It ain't always easy.

Terry, on the one hand I tend to agree with you that the Paypal BS needs to stay in the Main, but you
should be mindful that "justinb386" is the OP and by rights, can lead HIS thread in any direction he chooses.
He didn't introduce the Pp thing, he was merely asking a legitimate and civil question.
The impatient buyer did, as well as try to discredit the OP (seller).
IMO, if 'poolguy4u' thinks something is 'fishy' here, he might want take a sniff in his own kitchen.

Doc, you didn't have to delete your post.
You gave an honest/truthful opinion based on personal experience with the seller.
The truth should never be deleted.

Y'all have a good day.

KJ
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It's a shame that it overflows here. I appreciate your kind words about my input. Generally speaking I try not to get involved in such things. Generally none of us ever has all the info, so getting involved in supporting either party really is hazardous and potentially fans the flames. I generally try not to be a party to that.

What I deleted was the truth as far as I saw it, yes. I have sympathy for both parties involved. I did buy a cue from the OP and was happy with the deal. I was not involved in this current mess and really don't want to be.

Each party has had their say. I hope at some point that will be good enough. There are a lot of people watching that have a lot of experience and probably really do understand essentially what happened. The deal is done, it's a wash as far as I am concerned and I hope both parties can be mature enough and gentlemanly enough to let it go now. Buyers and sellers will be aware of how both of them conduct themselves in the aftermath of this matter and that is how reputations are established.

In other words: Everybody encounters problems in life. It isn't the fact that we do encounter problems that defines us but rather how we deal with them that does.

The guy that is left with the cue needs advice. He asks questions. I can appreciate that. He's really not sure what to do or even what can be done at this point. In fact he seems quite lost in the matter. I think any productive comments that help address that would not only be good for him but for the community at large.

Yes, I did delete my comments....fully aware that they were quoted and would in fact remain visible, that's why my post deletion specifically referred to his post. It is up to the person that quoted me to delete the quote if he likes. Personally I felt that whether or not he would delete them would speak to his character. Perhaps you can see why I dealt with it the way that I did. It put the ball in his court. :smile:

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Thanks KJ and Chopdoc for your nice replies. I know that what happened between me and the buyer should have remained private, but I felt like I needed to defend myself when the buyer started talking bad about me (because I felt like the buyer was completely wrong about all the bad things he was saying about me here in public). I just wanted to defend myself by telling the entire honest story about what happened. I do not want anyone thinking bad about me. I really do wish that the buyer would get over it, and stop replying to every one of my threads with bad untruthful things to say about what happened with our bad transaction (that I tried my best to resolve in the best, and fastest way possible). I am sorry again (to the cue makers here, and everyone else that is reading this thread) for going off the original subject. Thanks again for your help.
 
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