Can you play this shot

You need two things on this shot.

A slightly below center hit with a load of left english and a table with new fast cloth, probably 860, for the cue ball to carry the english off the second rail.

I like the way he hits it because he never comes near a pocket so he takes scratching out of the equation.
 
> The shot Rodney shoots is a little easier to execute with a thinner cut on the object ball,from the angle he actually shoots it,it's best to use as full a hit as possible,and just drive the piss out of it. Good luck doing this reliably on worn-out fuzzy cloth,or that IPT s**t. Tommy D.
 
Andrew Manning said:
Looking at the video again, it looks to me like this would be a better option, hitting softer with follow and a lot of inside:

http://CueTable.com/P/?@1HJKA1IAva2PGwJ2kGwJ1kHun1kbPB2kVqw@

Anybody else have other ideas for how they'd play this?

-Andrew
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Kind of depends on how well sidespin is grabbing the rails on that particular table. If it's grabbing well, then I like your shot. If it's a little slick, though, I'd be more inclined to use low-right (mostly right, not so much low) and come around 3/4 rails for a shot in the top-right corner.
 
The shot that Rodney plays is different than Buddy's shot.

Rodney is using inside english that begins "running" on the second rail. The cue ball stays on the "same" side of the table. Buddy's shot (shot #1) uses outside english "running" on each rail and leaving the cue ball on the "opposite" side of the table.

Rodney's shot is much more difficult to execute because the cue ball loses some spin on the first rail.
 
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My CB ends up on the opposite rail going 4 rails but still having a shot on the 9 in the other corner.
 
oceanweb said:
The shot that Rodney plays is different than Buddy's shot.

Rodney is using inside english that begins "running" on the second rail. The cue ball stays on the "same" side of the table. Buddy's shot (shot #1) uses outside english "running" on each rail and leaving the cue ball on the "opposite" side of the table.

Rodney's shot is much more difficult to execute because the cue ball loses some spin on the first rail.
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Maybe you saw the wrong shot from Buddy, but the one I was talking about, he used low left and the first rail he hit was reverse, and it turned to running on the second rail, then went around the table...just like Rodney's..
 
oceanweb said:
The shot that Rodney plays is different than Buddy's shot.

Rodney is using inside english that begins "running" on the second rail. The cue ball stays on the "same" side of the table. Buddy's shot (shot #1) uses outside english "running" on each rail and leaving the cue ball on the "opposite" side of the table.

Rodney's shot is much more difficult to execute because the cue ball loses some spin on the first rail.
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Ummmmm...that is why I used the words similar shot for the clip that I posted.

Right before that I mentioned that in (one) of his clip(s) he shoots the same shot that Rodney shot.

The one that was identical was not readily available and I did not have the time to watch them all.

click on the link and you will notice that there are many more to the right (all different types of shots)
 
I like this shot, but i don´t think rodney will play this shot in a big tournament on a 8 and 9 like these
 
DonFelix said:
I like this shot, but i don´t think rodney will play this shot in a big tournament on a 8 and 9 like these
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Sure he would. I've seen him do a lot of shots that you wouldn't think he'd do, but he pulls them off with ease.
 
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Andrew Manning said:
Left is what you need, but I don't think bottom is correct; from that angle it looks like bottom could cause a scratch cross-corner off the first rail. I think center-left is the way to go, and you'd have to stroke it real well because it's going to lose a lot of speed off that first rail, and it's going to need a lot of english to carry it around the table off the other three rails.

I would think that stroking as hard as that with inside english, the biggest risk in the shot is not coming up short, it's missing the 8 ball.

-Andrew
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You may be right. It looks like Rodney hits pretty high on the first rail. I first saw this shot on a Grady Matthews tape and have been practicing it for a few years. It's kind of sensitive to the exact layout of the balls. I usually have more success drawing the ball to get lower on the first rail. I would scratch in the opposite corner pocket if I hit where he did.

He clearing is using a lot more left than I am comfortable with, and has a much better stroke. I will give it a shot in the next couple of days and see
if I can duplicate his route.
 
The shot, IMHO, isn't as hard as people will make it seem. I learned the shot a few years ago from Spanish Pete, who called it "The Tony Robles" shot, because of how routine he made the shot look. You most certainly use a lot of inside english, but you don't need to hit low on the ball. I use a center to high hit on the cueball. At that speed, the follow doesn't have much of a chance to change the path of the ball before it hits the rail, and it lengthens the angle after coming off the first rail.
 
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