Can you use a jump cue in the APA?
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Nope.
You can use a break cue, but other than that you have to use one playing cue the rest of the way.
At least for regular APA Leagues. I dunno about Masters. Probably never will, at my current pace!
Thanks, I think he was wondering if he played with a jump/break whether he could break it down and jump with it.
I forgot to add that part. Not only do you have to play with your one cue (other than the break) but you can't break your regular cue down to use as a jump, either. If I remember the rule correctly, and I think I do. If not, someone will surely correct me!
in the latest rule book you can have a break cue (any tip) and game cue. you can only execute a jump with your full game cue. you can not break anything down and you can not switch to your break cue - you used to be able to switch. now i don't play in the masters division but i have been told that in the masters division you can use anything.
You got it right justadub. The kinda good news is: If the bar/poolhall allows it, you may jump with your (full length) playing cue. That is, if you CAN do that. I cannot. So, two cues allowed. One for breaking, one for playing after you break. No breaking down any cue.
I don't know about Masters League either. Does somebody else know???
Maniac
I don't know about Masters League either. Does somebody else know???
Maniac
can you use the dog bone?
Don Crump and Bill Young have a jump assist, looks like a dog bone, can you use that? If you can use a rake, you should be able to us the dog bone?
Play Missouri 8 ball you can use a jump que.:smile:
Don Crump and Bill Young have a jump assist, looks like a dog bone, can you use that? If you can use a rake, you should be able to us the dog bone?
Play Missouri 8 ball you can use a jump que.:smile:
rules for apa
http://www.apapoolnsetexas.com/files/MastersFlyer.pdf
This is a flyer for the apa masters league in texas. on the second page it states you can use a jump cue in the masters division. Also, explains the different format for Masters compared to the regular APA.
Hope this clears up your question.
-moose
http://www.apapoolnsetexas.com/files/MastersFlyer.pdf
This is a flyer for the apa masters league in texas. on the second page it states you can use a jump cue in the masters division. Also, explains the different format for Masters compared to the regular APA.
Hope this clears up your question.
-moose
NO you can NOT break a cue down. But you can jump with your full length cue that your shooting with.
If you break a cue down it's considered a forfeit.
In BCAPL and WPA breaking down your cue is a concession only if the following conditions are met:
1. Opponent is on the hill
2. Opponent is at the table shooting
3. The cue you break down is your playing cue.
Under any other circumstances, breaking down a cue is OK and not a concession.
Is APA different???
From the APA Team Manual:
"In general, any piece of equipment designed specifically for pocket billiards, with the exception of jump cues and laser devices, is acceptable in APA League play. Special equipment, such as bridges and cue extenders, are legal. Jump shots are legal, when executed properly (see JUMP SHOTS described in Definitions), but such shots must be attempted using your regular game cue (see REGULAR GAME CUE described in Definitions). Those cues especially designed for jump shots MAY NOT be used in competition. Players are not allowed to break their cues down to attempt jump shots."
From the description of APA Masters divisions:
"Information on Masters Divisions:
- Must be an APA member
........
- No maximum Skill Level limit on teams
.........
- Jump cues are allowed."
I hope that helps
"In general, any piece of equipment designed specifically for pocket billiards, with the exception of jump cues and laser devices, is acceptable in APA League play. Special equipment, such as bridges and cue extenders, are legal. Jump shots are legal, when executed properly (see JUMP SHOTS described in Definitions), but such shots must be attempted using your regular game cue (see REGULAR GAME CUE described in Definitions). Those cues especially designed for jump shots MAY NOT be used in competition. Players are not allowed to break their cues down to attempt jump shots."
From the description of APA Masters divisions:
"Information on Masters Divisions:
- Must be an APA member
........
- No maximum Skill Level limit on teams
.........
- Jump cues are allowed."
I hope that helps
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Then wouldn't it be true that you CAN use a jump cue, with the caveat that you must use the jump cue to play all shots with? Basically as your 'regular shooter'.
May not be practical, but it would be legal.
I mean, the question of the thread was, "Can you use a jump cue in APA?" You can, if it's the cue you would shoot all shots with.
If the question was, "Can you switch to a jump cue, to jump a ball, when playing APA?" then the answer would be no, you can't change cues.
May not be practical, but it would be legal.
I mean, the question of the thread was, "Can you use a jump cue in APA?" You can, if it's the cue you would shoot all shots with.
If the question was, "Can you switch to a jump cue, to jump a ball, when playing APA?" then the answer would be no, you can't change cues.
That is incorrect. The rule specifically states that any cues specifically designed for jump shots may not be used in competition.
===> NO
That explains it, thanks for the replies. I haven't played on a bar box in about three years, have a 9' at home. It felt strange to be playing on a smaller table.
They have a limit based on the ranking numbers, I think it is 25 total. You end up with not enough players who will fit under the limit if you have some decent players. That explains the sandbagging I hear people talking about.
They have a limit based on the ranking numbers, I think it is 25 total. You end up with not enough players who will fit under the limit if you have some decent players. That explains the sandbagging I hear people talking about.
The actual APA handicap limit is 23, and you'll hear about that A LOT! 
(That's where I come in, cuz I suck, heh heh. Provides balance for the good players.)
And not all leagues are played on bar boxes. Our APA league plays on 9-footers in all host locations.
Good luck, and have fun, which is the point of it all. Don't get caught up in the politics and the griping. It is supposed to be fun first.
(That's where I come in, cuz I suck, heh heh. Provides balance for the good players.)And not all leagues are played on bar boxes. Our APA league plays on 9-footers in all host locations.
Good luck, and have fun, which is the point of it all. Don't get caught up in the politics and the griping. It is supposed to be fun first.
i am not sure about the dog bone. i would doubt it, but if you are using that to jump with a full length cue why not just jump with the cue? why do you need the special bridge? i have just been working on jumping with my cue. it's the same as learning how to jump with a jump cue it's just taking me longer to learn. and i'll pass on playing MO. 8 ball for a few reasons, first and foremost i live in GA. and that's a hell of a commute for an 8 ball league that won't pay me any more cash than i can make in any league here in GA. i have already seen you or someone else discuss this in another thread. it sounds like i get paid the same or more from the bca division i play in, not to mention the fact i almost always cash in the apa singles tournaments here in ga. and my teams usually come away with something in the qualifier rounds. hell if i can i'd almost not want to get to vegas with a team - then we'd all get raised and ruin a good thing. second i just about hate 8 ball. the only reason i play it is bca in my area only offers 8 and if i play apa 8 i get two more nights of cheap as hell practice on the gold crowns. and lastly bca let's me use my jump cue and i can kick and swerve well enough to play apa.
The actual APA handicap limit is 23, and you'll hear about that A LOT!
And not all leagues are played on bar boxes. Our APA league plays on 9-footers in all host locations.
Good luck, and have fun, which is the point of it all. Don't get caught up in the politics and the griping. It is supposed to be fun first.
Good advice, I intend to have fun. The downside of leagues from past experience is the opponent who sometimes tends to take things a little too seriously. The potential winnings in most of these leagues is so small that it isn't worth worrying about.