How much would it cost a poolroom to upgrade to the correct bandwidth? Johnnyt Johnnyt
Cant anyone stream reliably?
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How much would it cost a poolroom to upgrade to the correct bandwidth? Johnnyt Johnnyt
The Internet at Steinway is fine. We have a 50 mbps download and a 5 mbps upload.
Ron Mason
I'm not sure speed of uploads and downloads is the only factor. I think it's like the type of connection.
Like a single lane highway with a long straight-a-way can handle speeds in excess of 100mph. That is until a zillion cars get on it from a lot of different entrance ramps.
I'm just guessing but it has to be more than how fast one person can get uploads and downloads from a connection.
At my house I have a pretty good and fast connection, but ... it is one connection, and when my wife, and daughter get on line at the same time with two different computers, and my cousin who lives in an attached in-law-apartment (and shares our internet) gets on line with her computer, all of a sudden that bandwidth is getting eaten up rather fast. Not to mention Ipods, Ipads, tablets, and whatever else is fighting for bandwidth from someone on the thinking chair.
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I'm not sure speed of uploads and downloads is the only factor. I think it's like the type of connection.
Like a single lane highway with a long straight-a-way can handle speeds in excess of 100mph. That is until a zillion cars get on it from a lot of different entrance ramps.
I'm just guessing but it has to be more than how fast one person can get uploads and downloads from a connection.
At my house I have a pretty good and fast connection, but ... it is one connection, and when my wife, and daughter get on line at the same time with two different computers, and my cousin who lives in an attached in-law-apartment (and shares our internet) gets on line with her computer, all of a sudden that bandwidth is getting eaten up rather fast. Not to mention Ipods, Ipads, tablets, and whatever else is fighting for bandwidth from someone on the thinking chair.
I understand what you are saying, but It is a full duplex connection which handles speed both ways. There are multiple issues going on there which I am working on, it's just difficult to work on it during an event. And now the Steinway classic starts in a little while so again, it will be a little difficult to play with it. Maybe I will just stay late tonight and make some tweaks.
I am not saying this is just a Steinway issue, but I will try my best to keep the stream up on our end of things.
Have a great day all.
Ron Mason
RBC
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I'm not sure speed of uploads and downloads is the only factor. I think it's like the type of connection.
Like a single lane highway with a long straight-a-way can handle speeds in excess of 100mph. That is until a zillion cars get on it from a lot of different entrance ramps.
I'm just guessing but it has to be more than how fast one person can get uploads and downloads from a connection.
At my house I have a pretty good and fast connection, but ... it is one connection, and when my wife, and daughter get on line at the same time with two different computers, and my cousin who lives in an attached in-law-apartment (and shares our internet) gets on line with her computer, all of a sudden that bandwidth is getting eaten up rather fast. Not to mention Ipods, Ipads, tablets, and whatever else is fighting for bandwidth from someone on the thinking chair.
That all makes sense, and is what Justin was talking about with the in-house wifi users. Each one of them was using bandwidth from the server and the in-house wifi system. If the streamers were also using the wifi, then they are consuming bandwidth from the wifi system, which is the streamers way out to Ustream.
As for all the users out there tuned in to Ustream, that doesn't matter. The streamer sends one stream to the Ustream server and it publishes it out through their website. All that traffic is handled by Ustream.
Ustream handling all the bandwidth brings up another issue. If the streams are successful and have tens of thousands of viewers, then Ustream will want to get paid for all the bandwidth they use. At least that would be my guess. There's no such thing as a free puppy!
Since the streamers have a tough enough time covering their expenses, it would be hard for them to also have to pay for the additional bandwidth. They can become a victim of their own success. Of course, if they consistently draw more viewers, they would attract more paying sponsors which would offset the added expense. But since the turnout comes after the event has been planned and the sponsors lined up, someone has to take a chance. Usually that turns out bad. Sponsoring a stream can really be a crap shoot.
So everybody does the best they can.
What would make it better?
There's really only one answer, and that is money.
The money, however, doesn't come from some angel investor, or a wealthy guy who loves pool and will pay for everything. Those things can happen, but they don't last and they don't build anything that will sustain itself. The money comes from commerce. I know that when I spend a certain amount of money on advertising, which is what sponsorship is, that I need to see a return on my investment. If I don't, then I question doing it again. Don't get me wrong, I would love to spend tens of thousands of dollars on every stream that comes out. But I won't, and can't, if I don't get a return on the investment. Sponsorship is an advertising investment to generate more sales, not a charitable contribution.
So, when pool loosens up and people start to really spend money on it again, there will be more money spent on better streams, bigger tournaments, new pool rooms, etc.
Just remember, it's all commerce driven.
Royce Bunnell
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There is a big difference in stability and environmental factors that you can control when you go mobile, versus dedicated studio setup. Ever watch the local news and they try to switch to the on location anchor, but have technical difficulties? Even with multi-million dollar annual budgets, the evening local news have trouble with mobile broadcasting.
At past events where I've seen Inside Pool at streamed at Steinway the equipment is connected directly to the router through ethernet. They don't use wifi. To minimize disruption to the stream, the in-house wifi also turned off for the duration of the stream.
At past events where I've seen Inside Pool at streamed at Steinway the equipment is connected directly to the router through ethernet. They don't use wifi. To minimize disruption to the stream, the in-house wifi also turned off for the duration of the stream.
Nonsense, sensitive much? Your 500 posts are not awe inspiring either but that is not the point I was making. I am appreciative of the free stream, I am just wondering why streams always seem to be problematical. And your right, it was just a thought. Peace.