Careful Criticizing CSI Org

[mikepage]

It makes zero difference. A player will improve the same on a bucket table or a tight table. I'd even venture to say they might improve faster on a bucket table because they can be more aggressive with shotmaking and position.

I agree with the faster on a bucket table. Tighter tables are often too EASY in an important respect; your mistakes get a free ride too far into the game.

Imagine two 500s playing on a tight table.

Most of the time it doesn't matter if you choose the wrong suit.
It doesn't matter if you choose bad patterns
It doesn't matter if you play crappy safeties
It doesn't matter if you miss
It doesn't matter if you miss two-way shot opportunities

This is because the table is tough for your opponent too and he is unable to punish these mistakes until late into the game. That free ride for your mistakes slows learning for you.

On a table with bigger pockets, that 500 opponent punishes your mistakes better. And that's good for your development. You're playing pool more like good players play it.

 

[lfigueroa]

It makes zero difference. A player will improve the same on a bucket table or a tight table. I'd even venture to say they might improve faster on a bucket table because they can be more aggressive with shotmaking and position.

I think that if you're on bucket tables you will get better but not so much when you have to play on tight equipment.

Whereas the player used to tighter equipment will always be able to adjust to bucket tables. The guy used to bucket tables playing on tighter equipment, not so much.

Lou Figueroa

 

[iusedtoberich]

I think that if you're on bucket tables you will get better but not so much when you have to play on tight equipment.

Whereas the player used to tighter equipment will always be able to adjust to bucket tables. The guy used to bucket tables playing on tighter equipment, not so much.

Lou Figueroa

Devil’s advocate…. Let’s say a player grew up on 3.5” pockets with deep shelves and stupid miter angles. He learned the best way to win is to bunt the balls around until there are 2 balls left in an easy pattern. Or, to blast at the 9 before then.

Get him on a bucket table with an experienced player on it.

The player that normally plays on the buckets might run racks on him. The other guy will be afraid of his own shadow to shoot. I’m sure you’ve seen this playing one hole over the years as styles changed.

 

[lfigueroa]

Devil’s advocate…. Let’s say a player grew up on 3.5” pockets with deep shelves and stupid miter angles. He learned the best way to win is to bunt the balls around until there are 2 balls left in an easy pattern. Or, to blast at the 9 before then.

Get him on a bucket table with an experienced player on it.

The player that normally plays on the buckets might run racks on him. The other guy will be afraid of his own shadow to shoot. I’m sure you’ve seen this playing one hole over the years as styles changed.

Well, you’ve painted and extreme scenario which obviously isn’t what I’m talking about.

Lou Figueroa

 

[yankee817299]

Bottom line is that at the BCA Nationals everyone had a good time playing pool. With the new format of a minimum of 5 matches and the tables being toned down a bit, all level's of players enjoiyed themselves. That has to be good for the pool world. The different divisions helps keep the player strength well grouped and everyone is playing on the same equipment.

 

[maha]

there is an in between size that works well not just, tight and buckets.

getting position is usually more important than making the shot into the hole if you think about it.

and very tight pockets severely limit ability to move the cue ball around in longer distances, for anyone but a very good player and it hurts them as well.