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rocitop

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Hello To All

Have any of you had any experience with Ariel Carmeli Cues.
Any opinions on their build quality and the very subjective matter of "feel" and "playability"?
It seems that his cues are somewhat rare, at least in the Eastern USA, and checking them out "hands on" is difficult.
Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Rocitop
 
rocitop said:
Hello To All

Have any of you had any experience with Ariel Carmeli Cues.
Any opinions on their build quality and the very subjective matter of "feel" and "playability"?
It seems that his cues are somewhat rare, at least in the Eastern USA, and checking them out "hands on" is difficult.
Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Rocitop
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If I understand correctly, Ariel used to work for Tad Kohara doing some repairs or things like that. But I am not 100% sure.

I have seen quite a few of his cues in Asia, he is getting quite popular there. I guess the customers in Asia are very fond of his spliced points workmanship and his stiff hitting shaft.

You can contact him at 714-543-5700.
 
nipponbilliards said:
If I understand correctly, Ariel used to work for Tad Kohara doing some repairs or things like that. But I am not 100% sure.

I have seen quite a few of his cues in Asia, he is getting quite popular there. I guess the customers in Asia are very fond of his spliced points workmanship and his stiff hitting shaft.

You can contact him at 714-543-5700.
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Thank You very much for the information.
 
I've had at least one for the last five or six years (sometimes as many as four), and he makes an excellent playing cue, on the stiffer side of things (more like a schon than a meucci).

His designs range from standard to some fairly unique stuff. His biggest knock when he was first starting out was that he didn't make his own points, but that has changed in the last couple of years. His prices are a bit on the high side for what is considered a fairly "new" cuemaker, but you certainly get value for the extra monies.

As far as his history, he never worked for Tad Kohara (at least not directly). The story goes like this, Ariel and another cuemaker shared a shop in the old Best Billiards store in Santa Ana, CA. While there, both cuemakers had access to some of the finest cuemakers in the world (such as Jim Buss, Ernie Gutierrez, Tad Kohara, and others). And all of them had lessons to pass on to these to cuemakers.

The other cuemaker.....Kerry Zyler of Zylr Cue.

The bulk of the story.....if you want something that looks pretty and hits good, an Ariel is a good choice.....If you're concerned strictly about playabilty, and you don't care if it's on the plain side, a Zylr is an excellent choice, and you'll probably save yourself a couple hundred bucks.

Have fun.
 
Pigcarver said:
I've had at least one for the last five or six years (sometimes as many as four), and he makes an excellent playing cue, on the stiffer side of things (more like a schon than a meucci).

His designs range from standard to some fairly unique stuff. His biggest knock when he was first starting out was that he didn't make his own points, but that has changed in the last couple of years. His prices are a bit on the high side for what is considered a fairly "new" cuemaker, but you certainly get value for the extra monies.

As far as his history, he never worked for Tad Kohara (at least not directly). The story goes like this, Ariel and another cuemaker shared a shop in the old Best Billiards store in Santa Ana, CA. While there, both cuemakers had access to some of the finest cuemakers in the world (such as Jim Buss, Ernie Gutierrez, Tad Kohara, and others). And all of them had lessons to pass on to these to cuemakers.

The other cuemaker.....Kerry Zyler of Zylr Cue.

The bulk of the story.....if you want something that looks pretty and hits good, an Ariel is a good choice.....If you're concerned strictly about playabilty, and you don't care if it's on the plain side, a Zylr is an excellent choice, and you'll probably save yourself a couple hundred bucks.

Have fun.
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Pigcarver

Thanks very much for this info. Your experience with these cues is exactly what I'm looking for.

Thanks again
Rocitop
 
rocitop said:
Hello To All

Have any of you had any experience with Ariel Carmeli Cues.
Any opinions on their build quality and the very subjective matter of "feel" and "playability"?
It seems that his cues are somewhat rare, at least in the Eastern USA, and checking them out "hands on" is difficult.
Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Rocitop
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Hi Rocitop,
I have been a Dealer and a friend of Carmeli Cues for several years. I brought him to Hopkins Show for a couple of years to let the East Coast experience his cues. This has proven to be a great success since East Coast sales have increased dramatically. His cues are very popular overseas and now are a hot commodity in the U.S.
Other posts are correct that he made his start working at Best Billiards in California. This gave him the opportunity to pick the brains of alot of the greatest California cuemakers. He is now approaching his 10th Anniversary in cuemaking.
The Quality and Workmanship in his cues has been brought up to the highest standards. He is being recognized for making some of the nicest Points in the business. Ariel has been approached many times just to make points. I have put a Cameli in many persons hands and yet to find someone who hasn't loved the hit and feel. I know that Cory Harper plays with one, and Mika owned one a couple of years ago..
I have about 5 cues being finished by Ariel at the present time. They will be done in about 2 weeks. If anyone is interest in a Ariel Carmeli Cue please email me at MIZRBL@aol.com
Thanks KEN
 
HighEndCues said:
Hi Rocitop,
I have been a Dealer and a friend of Carmeli Cues for several years. I brought him to Hopkins Show for a couple of years to let the East Coast experience his cues. This has proven to be a great success since East Coast sales have increased dramatically. His cues are very popular overseas and now are a hot commodity in the U.S.
Other posts are correct that he made his start working at Best Billiards in California. This gave him the opportunity to pick the brains of alot of the greatest California cuemakers. He is now approaching his 10th Anniversary in cuemaking.
The Quality and Workmanship in his cues has been brought up to the highest standards. He is being recognized for making some of the nicest Points in the business. Ariel has been approached many times just to make points. I have put a Cameli in many persons hands and yet to find someone who hasn't loved the hit and feel. I know that Cory Harper plays with one, and Mika owned one a couple of years ago..
I have about 5 cues being finished by Ariel at the present time. They will be done in about 2 weeks. If anyone is interest in a Ariel Carmeli Cue please email me at MIZRBL@aol.com
Thanks KEN
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HighEndCues

Thanks to you and this forum.
An email is on the way to you.

Rocitop
 
Pigcarver said:
...If you're concerned strictly about playabilty, and you don't care if it's on the plain side, a Zylr is an excellent choice....

Have fun.
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I concur.
He's a great guy too.

Peace
~DC
 
I have been playing with one of his cues for just over a year and it is most definately one of the best hitting cues I have ever had (I was previously using a JossWest). www.accues.com
 
Hey Rocitop,

Ariel does make a nice cue and the truth is, if its a plain jane you're looking for (points; minimal to no inlay work) these cues aren't that pricey at all. KEN (HighEndCues) owns the pool room I play in and I've hit with several Carmeli's that he has sold to various people in the room. I've seen his simple work. I've seen his intricate work. Its all attractive and plays well.
Zyler also makes a good cue too however, you'll be getting a very plain cue and you'll have little input on design.

-Brian
 
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