"Center Ball" ! What does that mean to you?

JoeyInCali said:
I don't see a billiard table in his video.
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We're talking about a CORRECT follow-thru, it doesn't require a 3C tables! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

YOUR pendulum stroke analogy is INCORRECT!

So, according to that analogy, if a player banks the CB to the short cushion with center ball to pocket a ball in an opposite corner, the path of the CB won't be effected by the downward follow-thru! :rolleyes:
 
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mr3cushion said:
We're talking about a CORRECT follow-thru, it doesn't require a 3C tables! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

YOUR pendulum stroke analogy is INCORRECT!

So, according to that analogy, if a player banks the CB to the short cushion with center ball to pocket a ball in an opposite corner, the path of the CB won't be effected by the downward follow-thru! :rolleyes:
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I don't know your skill level, but here's a video of a popular pro. Start watching at 3:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_DvTmCJfM
 
mr3cushion said:
We're talking about a CORRECT follow-thru, it doesn't require a 3C tables! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

YOUR pendulum stroke analogy is INCORRECT!

So, according to that analogy, if a player banks the CB to the short cushion with center ball to pocket a ball in an opposite corner, the path of the CB won't be effected by the downward follow-thru! :rolleyes:
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Sorry, it is correct.
Yours is a piston stroke argument.
 
tim913 said:
I don't know your skill level, but here's a video of a popular pro. Start watching at 3:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_DvTmCJfM
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There have been many pro's, with not so correct fundamentals and play well! They have adapted to their fault! I

Do you really believe, if she tried to contact the CB at 12 O'clock, that the cue tip would dip to the cloth? :confused: She'd have to follow-thru 3 feet for that to happen! :eek:

I invite you to my site: http://mr3cushion.com, judge for yourself, as to my skill level.
 
mr3cushion said:
What do you think is MORE accurate, piston or pendulum?

Or, the perfect shortened version of a combination of both, with precise timing, tempo and speed!
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Stroke slip is more accurate.
There you go.
Another can of argument to argue.
 
mr3cushion said:
There have been many pro's, with not so correct fundamentals and play well! They have adapted to their fault! I

Do you really believe, if she tried to contact the CB at 12 O'clock, that the cue tip would dip to the cloth? :confused: She'd have to follow-thru 3 feet for that to happen! :eek:

I invite you to my site: http://mr3cushion.com, judge for yourself, as to my skill level.
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To follow thru 3 feet she'd have to drop her elbow.. :). You don't have to follow thru very far to have your tip follow to the cloth or continue level if you drop your elbow. Neither is a FAULT, it's a preference. Some pros have a pendulum swing, others don't. There are many times in a game where you can't follow thru at all. or only an inch or so, or you might foul. You have to use common sense, but neither is a fault!
 
mr3cushion said:
The cue tip must travel perfectly straight, horizontally and vertically thru the CB, to get the correct effect on the CB the player intended!
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Of course you mean "during the 1/1000 second of contact" - before and after that the cue tip has no effect on the CB. And assuming, of course, the player wants the effect of a level hit.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Of course you mean "during the 1/1000 second of contact" - before and after that the cue tip has no effect on the CB. And assuming, of course, the player wants the effect of a level hit.


pj
chgo
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10,000,000 carom/3C players in Korea alone, will surly disagree with YOUR assessment of the effect of cue-tip duration on the CB!

BTW, I was wondering how long it would take your nerdy neck to get stuck in here! :grin:
 
mr3cushion said:
10,000,000 carom/3C players in Korea alone, will surly disagree with YOUR assessment of the effect of cue-tip duration on the CB!
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Are you saying that the tip affects the CB even when it's not in contact with it?

BTW, I was wondering how long it would take your nerdy neck to get stuck in here!
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A friendly word of advice: you'd be taken more seriously without the kneejerk combativeness.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Are you saying that the tip affects the CB even when it's not in contact with it?


A friendly word of advice: you'd be taken more seriously without the kneejerk combativeness.

pj
chgo
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NO, I'm saying YOU'RE obnoxious!
YOU have a way of bringing it out in people! And NOT just me!
 
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Hey, this thread was not about my stroke. It was taken about two years ago, but I still work on it today. It's about a stun shot with about 6" of roll out (demonstrated on a straight shot so it can be felt and seen). Once you've got it perfected on a straight in shot), one can find the advantage of this shot is on a OB with angle and watching the cue ball track off the object ball. much different angle than follow or tangent. I'm wondering if anyone has actually tried it? Please help me and post if you did....
 
denwhit said:
Hey, this thread was not about my stroke. It was taken about two years ago, but I still work on it today. It's about a stun shot with about 6" of roll out (demonstrated on a straight shot so it can be felt and seen). Once you've got it perfected on a straight in shot), one can find the advantage of this shot is on a OB with angle and watching the cue ball track off the object ball. much different angle than follow or tangent. I'm wondering if anyone has actually tried it? Please help me and post if you did....
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I apologize for my comment! I should have kept my thought to myself!
 
See what you started denwhit by using a term most likely only used by your instructor? Next time you might have better luck if you use the commonly accepted term such as “stun run through” in this case;)

Ps, can you show a video of you shooting actual racks 2 years ago and today? It seems you have taken your training very seriously during this time, with professional instruction, the best equipment available, the latest training aids, and dedication. You would be a good test example for our endless nature vs nurture debate.
 
iusedtoberich said:
See what you started denwhit by using a term most likely only used by your instructor? Next time you might have better luck if you use the commonly accepted term such as “stun run through” in this case;)

Ps, can you show a video of you shooting actual racks 2 years ago and today? It seems you have taken your training very seriously during this time, with professional instruction, the best equipment available, the latest training aids, and dedication. You would be a good test example for our endless nature vs nurture debate.
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I took this whole last year off hunting prairie dogs in Montana. But, I'm back now and practicing 5 hours a day or playing with a high A player a few times a week. I do love my teacher! He is like Chet Atkins and I'm a guitar student. But Chet would not give lessons to a student because he's too rich (was) and famous. But my teacher is a genus, a master/master at pool, every bit as good at his skill as Chet, the world's greats and I am honored to have a lesson from him. He's not as rich as Chet so I can go as a student. I guess pool players and teachers will probably not be too rich.
 
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mr3cushion said:
I was thinking the same thing about your questions! :rolleyes:
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The pendulum stroke has been taught by many instructors for decades. If you look on youtube you can find pros giving lessons on stroke, or the mechanics of the stroke. If you have a true pendulum stroke the tip will dip towards the cloth or touch the cloth on follow thru, there's no where else it can go. If the grip is loose and and your hand finishes at your chest, or near it, the tip can't go anywhere else, has nothing to do with POOL, it's physics or something. Lay a stick level, with the shaft resting on the rail, just holding the butt with your grip hand. Now lift the butt up, the other end goes down
 
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