Center Pocket Music, the long-awaited CTE Pro One book, by Stan Shuffett.

Sales revenue is the only reason CTE is here. It attempts to answer the question: How do you make a career of teaching someone to make a ball?
Ghost ball fails there as will contact geometry. The sell in pool is technique, then application. Stan's technique is already overly complex in attempting to address CTE's requirements. The "just three lines" seems to require independent calibration of the eyes and tiny stroke flinches (yeah, that's in one of the truths) per discreet shot. Not pseudo intellectual???
Tiny stroke flinches? You have a corrosive way with words. When the end result is getting on the shot line accurately then what you see as complex might actually resolve to a rather simple set of movements which allow the player to get into the shot with high confidence that the line is right. Do you think that you have some aiming method that never requires conscious adjustment for various reasons? For shots that go directly to a pocket there is no adjustment needed ever. For bank shots there are table/humidity condition variables that sometimes require a slight adjustment. Stan outlines this clearly. Try learning any banking or kicking system and any competent instructor will explain the adjustments based on those variables.

A career? Once again, based on my knowledge of time+effort+cost of production I am pretty sure that there isn't much profit in this. Stan was retired when he took this on. I could set him with a WAY more profitable business that requires far less effort and has nearly zero chance of being criticized in the vile ways that you all take so much joy in.

No not pseudo-intellectual. Observational/experiential and results-oriented. Ever heard of Dick Fosbury? Probably not but now you know the name. Dick could have attempted to explain HOW his method worked and he might have in defense of it but the fact is that his results blew away the competition at the time and now his method is the standard in high jumping. The Fosbury Flop was ridiculed but ultimately adopted universally. What seems strange and "overly complex" to some might actually be fairly simple but requires a change in paradigm.

No one is trying to rewrite the laws of physics or mathematics. Repeatedly observed phenomena conforms to the laws of both on our plane of experience even if we don't have the underlying math to back it up. While it might be helpful to have the math so as to calculate the size of the lever and fulcrum needed to move the world the fact is that figuring out that a long stick and a smaller rock can be used to move a much larger rock doesn't require math or physics knowledge. So it is in pool also. Discovering that objective visual methods to address the balls coupled with specific physical motions leads to a higher degree of accuracy has happened independently of knowledge of the strict physics and math that underpin them. And the best part is that it really does not matter if the math/physics are ever known. Because when consistent results are wanted and they are achieved then there really isn't any need to layer on knowledge that doesn't improve the results.

And who knows....maybe someday a pool playing mathematician who creates a math-based system that works decently like Poolology seems to will take on CTE and discover how to be even more precise through the use of some form of math based instruction. For now though we have a great method that doesn't require any of that. All the time you all have spent arguing against it you could have learned it and been enjoying the results in my opinion. Or if it seems like too much for you then don't bother and move on to something else that brings you joy.

Or stay here and try to save the world's players from considering the Center to Edge method of aiming.
 
Well... except for the minor detail that none of them actually do that - because it's logically impossible.

Oh right... you don't do logic do you?

pj
chgo
Neither do you. Resorting to the catch-all of "subconscious adjustment" is neither logical nor intellectually sound. Being that you have been operating under the assumption, for the past 20 years, that a perception is the same as a shot angle it would advisable to check your premise before telling anyone else what is logical or possible.
 
... you have been operating under the assumption, for the past 20 years, that a perception is the same as a shot angle
You've never had a clue what my assumptions are, even though I've described them many times.

Not surprising - you still don't have a clue what your own "perception" is, even though it's been described for you many times. Again: it's a typical by-feel shot resolution no more or less "objective" than others (just more muddled).

pj
chgo
 
And I am completely ok if you do. You think it bothers me but it doesn't. I know that my form sucks. I know that I am not diligent enough to do what I need to in order to get rid of all the bad habits. I know that any video of me displaying bad form is helpful to others to show what not to do.

What i also know is that I have never bragged about spending four hours a day practicing and thus claimed that I have all I need to play good based on that claim. That's you. But the video of your failed shots and failed position play is a good lesson to the viewers that table time alone isn't enough. I will use it to narrate why CTE and other objective aiming systems coupled with table time and attention to form is a powerful combination. You are actually a great example because we have your vehement opposition to aiming systems to contrast with your abysmal performance and can analyze in that context.

With me people can see a goofball stroke and say well if he was aimed right he sure screwed it up with that terrible stroke. With you having a smooth stroke people could conclude that you simply don't aim correctly.

Thank you for providing plenty of footage for this analysis. I am positive that it will help many players far into the future.



Not everyone can process information easily.

oh, I know what gets under your skin: $10K ca-ching.

I look forward to endlessly mocking the form of the CTE Jedi.

Lou Figueroa
 
Decided to have another look. Got home from work, ate my dinner and put on video 3. Just woke up on the couch, it's all dark and my family has gone to bed. The damned thing literally put me into a coma.
 
oh, I know what gets under your skin: $10K ca-ching.

I look forward to endlessly mocking the form of the CTE Jedi.

Lou Figueroa
Nah, that money was WELL SPENT. You can mock all you want but you'll never beat an actual CTE Jedi because you don't have the sack to play one. You're so bad that the ONLY aiming system advocate you could play is the one with the WORST form. And even then you barely won.

I am just a cheerleader, the Jedi are playing better pool than you have ever dared to imagine yourself playing. If you are supposed to be the poster bay for HAMB pool would be in trouble.

What aiming method and stroke technique is this?

 
You know I forgot just how bad you play. I am truly embarrassed that I lost to you. You truly suck.

I will play you a 10ahead set at the player's club in St. Louis for $20,000.

When ever you are ready to freeze up the money and set a date we can get it on.

Take a picture of this.
 
Tiny stroke flinches? You have a corrosive way with words. When the end result is getting on the shot line accurately then what you see as complex might actually resolve to a rather simple set of movements which allow the player to get into the shot with high confidence that the line is right. Do you think that you have some aiming method that never requires conscious adjustment for various reasons? For shots that go directly to a pocket there is no adjustment needed ever. For bank shots there are table/humidity condition variables that sometimes require a slight adjustment. Stan outlines this clearly. Try learning any banking or kicking system and any competent instructor will explain the adjustments based on those variables.

Here's #13, "the 60" Note the deviations in object ball line.

Stan's technique is already overly complex in attempting to address CTE's requirements. The "just three lines" seems to require independent calibration of the eyes and tiny stroke flinches (yeah, that's in one of the truths) per discreet shot. Not pseudo intellectual???
 
Decided to have another look. Got home from work, ate my dinner and put on video 3. Just woke up on the couch, it's all dark and my family has gone to bed. The damned thing literally put me into a coma.
I say this is not only a good thing, it's a fantastic discovery! You have the ultimate cure for INSOMNIA! Open your eyes...they're still closed to the benefits of CTE for you personally.

(Now here comes the nasty part to show just how easy this all is) I fell asleep yesterday myself after logging on to your website and started looking at the pool cues you make. Human Snoring Sound Effects - YouTube
Low liked them...me, BORRRRING...

But here's the ironic part of what's on your website. You say: I build simple cues highlighting the natural beauty of the wood and most importantly they hit solid and consistent. If you are looking for bling, Coos Cues are not for you.

I'd say that's pretty damn honest and upfront. So why don't YOU take your own advice and just do the same thing
with CTE. Here, I'll say it for you: If you're happy with the tried and true that got you where you are for aiming in pool,
CTE is not for you.


Now, can't you follow your own advice? Seriously, I could go on an absurd rant every single day about your pool cues but that's a waste of time and energy because there are those who would still buy them for their reasons just like those who are buying the books and getting very involved with CTE.

Would an attack on your primary job as far as how you do what you do and the quality of the work be even better? I know what it is. Based on the length of time you've been involved with it I have to think you're pretty knowledgeable and good at it and I have respect even without personal experience. How about you doing likewise.

Stan Shuffett has one of the best resumes for instructing, playing as a part time pool player, and developing the skill levels of men and women pro players and amateurs than just about anyone out there. Hell, look at the record of his own son.
It can't be matched.

You wouldn't like to go up against Landon, would you? He did pound Earl into the ground on a 10' table while using CTE.
Landon Shuffett vs Earl Strickland in the Diamond 10-Ball 10 Foot Challenge - video Dailymotion
 
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Well... except for the minor detail that none of them actually do that - because it's logically impossible.

Oh right... you don't do logic do you?

pj
chgo
Logically, with your belief system regarding other aiming methods vs. CTE, you would have abandoned and ignored it 23 years ago. But here you are still blowing your horn like a 3rd grader trying to learn how to play his first instrument. It hasn't gotten any better and sounds exactly the same. How logical is that?
 
Logically, with your belief system regarding other aiming methods vs. CTE, you would have abandoned and ignored it 23 years ago. But here you are still blowing your horn like a 3rd grader trying to learn how to play his first instrument. It hasn't gotten any better and sounds exactly the same. How logical is that?
"The Johnson" has some strange ideas about playing this game doesn't he..... We all must "march in lockstep" to his drumbeat. I don't want to do that.
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You know I forgot just how bad you play. I am truly embarrassed that I lost to you. You truly suck.

I will play you a 10ahead set at the player's club in St. Louis for $20,000.

When ever you are ready to freeze up the money and set a date we can get it on.

Take a picture of this.

lol, you already know the answer.

I have said many times: not playing an ahead set.

Lou Figueroa
 
lol, you already know the answer.

I have said many times: not playing an ahead set.

Lou Figueroa
Of course not. Although earlier in this very thread you said "an ahead set wouldn't have mattered (to change the outcome)". The fact is that you are scared and always have been.

In the negotiation for the original match you agreed to an ahead set or a race and I chose the race. Don't bother to dispute it because I have the conversation.

Anyway, you don't want to play. But if you find the heart to get up and play then you know where to find me.

Tell you what will be great though is how I take your game apart shot by shot and turn it into a promotion for Center to Edge aiming. As a bonus I will deconstruct your pitiful one pocket to insure that your failures instruct the viewers on what not to do.

Thank you so so so much for inspiring me to rewatch the match.
 
Of course not. Although earlier in this very thread you said "an ahead set wouldn't have mattered (to change the outcome)". The fact is that you are scared and always have been.

In the negotiation for the original match you agreed to an ahead set or a race and I chose the race. Don't bother to dispute it because I have the conversation.

Anyway, you don't want to play. But if you find the heart to get up and play then you know where to find me.

Tell you what will be great though is how I take your game apart shot by shot and turn it into a promotion for Center to Edge aiming. As a bonus I will deconstruct your pitiful one pocket to insure that your failures instruct the viewers on what not to do.

Thank you so so so much for inspiring me to rewatch the match.

I did say an ahead wouldn’t have changed the outcome and it wouldn’t have — but I also said I have refused to entertain your subsequent offers over the years to play one.

I’ve told you this many times. So, again, your challenge is an empty one — you knew I’d refuse from the get-go. It’s just more hollow chest beating so you can puff up but feel nice and safe.

Lou Figueroa
 
I say this is not only a good thing, it's a fantastic discovery! You have the ultimate cure for INSOMNIA! Open your eyes...they're still closed to the benefits of CTE for you personally.

(Now here comes the nasty part to show just how easy this all is) I fell asleep yesterday myself after logging on to your website and started looking at the pool cues you make. Human Snoring Sound Effects - YouTube
Low liked them...me, BORRRRING...

But here's the ironic part of what's on your website. You say: I build simple cues highlighting the natural beauty of the wood and most importantly they hit solid and consistent. If you are looking for bling, Coos Cues are not for you.

I'd say that's pretty damn honest and upfront. So why don't YOU take your own advice and just do the same thing
with CTE. Here, I'll say it for you: If you're happy with the tried and true that got you where you are for aiming in pool,
CTE is not for you.


Now, can't you follow your own advice? Seriously, I could go on an absurd rant every single day about your pool cues but that's a waste of time and energy because there are those who would still buy them for their reasons just like those who are buying the books and getting very involved with CTE.

Would an attack on your primary job as far as how you do what you do and the quality of the work be even better? I know what it is. Based on the length of time you've been involved with it I have to think you're pretty knowledgeable and good at it and I have respect even without personal experience. How about you doing likewise.

Stan Shuffett has one of the best resumes for instructing, playing as a part time pool player, and developing the skill levels of men and women pro players and amateurs than just about anyone out there. Hell, look at the record of his own son.
It can't be matched.

You wouldn't like to go up against Landon, would you? He did pound Earl into the ground on a 10' table while using CTE.
Landon Shuffett vs Earl Strickland in the Diamond 10-Ball 10 Foot Challenge - video Dailymotion
I heard Stan's home is under seige. He needs you to rush over there and die for him. Chop chop!!

And of course

NO CUE FOR YOU!!




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Stan handles himself quite well.

I wouldn't take the cue for free. You could send one to LOW to try out as a demo and have him as a promoter, he liked them. (I need to have a long talk with that boy)
 
Stan handles himself quite well.

I wouldn't take the cue for free. You could send one to LOW to try out as a demo and have him as a promoter, he liked them. (I need to have a long talk with that boy)
Some girls don't like cues like mine

Ah, but some girls do!
 
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