Center Pocket Music, the long-awaited CTE Pro One book, by Stan Shuffett.

dont you think
this back and forth for 20 years has gone on long enough to shut it down??
this is a sticky
before you get to the threads
just askin
 
Here is a CTE user who discovered ten shots from the same position using CTE visuals.
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Only the lord knows how long it took to make that video. Notice none of the shots are consecutive. We could all do this if given the time and film.

Three railer side pocket, take 315 and Action!

This was a fun drill, it took me about 15-20 tries to get all six in a row.

 
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Here's my advice, find out what Dr. did their surgery for those 3 guys and DON'T GO TO THEM! All surgeons are not created equal. Have the cut done with laser instead of by hand and the lens will then be attached. Ask what they do and how they do it...laser or other.
Anyone who places faith in an optometrist for serious issues of the eyes is making a bad bet. The correct professional to see is an ophthalmologist...most top professionals nowadays use the laser method.(y)(y)
 
I didn't. I tried to play him. He threatened me with violence. Just as he did the previous year.

And no a lot of people didn't see it or hear it because it didn't happen.

Eric and you are dishonest people. Your levels of dishonesty and bullying are despicable.

Interestingly through you never attacked him when he was advocating for objective aiming systems. That would have been interesting to see two full blown liars going at it.

About an hour before the match, there is a kerfuffle in the main room across from where I’m standing with Dustin and Mike. John starts woofing at Eric. I want to clarify: Eric was not part of my crew. I know Eric going back to the days of RSB and when I saw him at Sandcastle I went up to greet him. That’s it.

“Come on Eric, let’s play a quick race to five for a thousand,” John woofs. Eric basically tells John to go fornicate himself. But John persists. He will not stop goading Eric and soon Eric has had enough and he and John are literally nose-to-nose, pool balls clutched in fists. I’m watching all this from the other side of the pool room and thinking, “There will be no match and oh, BTW, John is going to require some serious dental work tomorrow.” Fortunately, AZer, Mitch, is nearby and he steps in and reminds both parties that many folks want to see the match come off and they should back off and not jeopardize the game. They separate.

Lou Figueroa
 
Unfortunately we have seen that even with video evidence some people are willing to simply lie when they craft their lie in such a way that it cannot be proven one way or the other. The accusations of coaching were simply another way for their little group to try and shark me.
I watched every minute of that thing when it was live.
There are some people in this world who'll just never get along with each other...too much diverse opinions about what makes things tick. I thought that you should've never done all that hugging at the finish. "Snakes crawl when the grass is high". (I think you found that out and further historical comments have solidified the evidence.)
You've got a great business going there with those first class cases you and your wife produce. Don't waste your time "fattening frogs for snakes"....if you can get a match on your terms, way to go, otherwise do not do it.
Keep on truckin'.(y);)
 
I didn't. I tried to play him. He threatened me with violence. Just as he did the previous year.

And no a lot of people didn't see it or hear it because it didn't happen.

Eric and you are dishonest people. Your levels of dishonesty and bullying are despicable.

Interestingly through you never attacked him when he was advocating for objective aiming systems. That would have been interesting to see two full blown liars going at it.

Somewhere around the last third of my match with John, like when we are 5-3, Dennis Spears walked into the arena. I don’t know Dennis but I was told that he is a local open level player that plays pros like John Schmidt 1pocket even. He goes and sits next to John’s wife. I pretty much ignored him and didn’t think anything of his presence in John’s corner, even though he would clap loudly every time John would make a good shot.
We progress to the point in the match where I have John 6-3 and eventually, late in one of the next two games, John shoots an intentional laying the CB up behind two balls on the spot. The owed ball is spotted and I am now sandwiched between two balls and I think to myself, “No way John knows that shot.” John says he learned that shot from someone from St. Louis and I can buy that. I myself learned it years ago watching a match featuring Mark Jarvis with Freddy the Beard commentating. If I recall correctly, Mark loses the last game and Freddy comes out of the booth and tells him the shot. Mark sets it up, shoots it, and a light bulb comes on.

In any case, now I start to pay attention to John’s corner.

My wife has often said I have hearing like a dog. What I start to notice is that from my player’s chair Dennis is sitting out of my line of sight, literally crouched down behind one of the arena’s wooden pillars. So now I’m trying to listen in to what Dennis is saying to John every time I’m near the left corner pocket near John’s corner.

Some folks have wondered, “What could anyone say to John in a just couple of seconds that would benefit him?” But it was way more than that. The entire time I was standing at the table trying to figure out what I was going to do, Dennis was mumbling away to John with plenty of time to assess the table and brief him on his options. Dennis was doing that while holding both hands up to his mouth, sort of like you see baseball players during a pitcher/catcher mound conference.

I feel that John getting coached cost me at least one of the two games John goes on to win at that point, and we finish the night at 8-6. (And no: there was no prior discussion, much less agreement, on cornermen or coaching.)

So immediately after the conclusion of play the first night I walk over to the far side of the arena where AZers Koop and Mitch are sitting and I ask them if they could see what was going on in John’s corner and one of them says, “Oh yeah. It was totally obvious from here that he was getting coached. We had a clear view of it.”

So I go up to Ed, the owner of Sandcastle, who was still in the booth, having done commentary, and we have the following conversation:

Lou: “I got a complaint.”

Ed: “What is it?”

Lou: “John was getting coached by the black guy in his corner.”

Ed: “Oh yeah. I could see it from the booth. I was waiting for you to say something to put an end to it.”

Lou: “It can’t happen tomorrow.”

Ed: “OK.”

My corner slept the coaching. I don’t blame them. We’re all pretty new to this kind of stuff and to be honest we never thought anyone would stoop to that. In any case, I know they have beaten themselves up enough about it. So that’s the answer to why Lou’s corner didn’t say anything.

The next day before John and I start again, I go up to Ed again and we have this conversation:

Lou “There cannot be any coaching today.”

Ed: “I talked to John about it and he admitted to it and I told him that can’t be going on.”

Lou: “All I know is that I won’t tolerate it today.”

And what Ed does is to talk to Dennis, one of his room players, and tells him he cannot sit anywhere near John, and that was the end of that.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Cheating by being coached. There you have it, boldly states your biggest edge was knowledge of the game, or rather John’s lack there of. I’ll bet you wouldn’t complain about coaching in a 9-ball match. You’d just lose.

In all my years of playing 1pocket, coaching has always been verboten. Even in a partners game, it is a point of negotiation: coaching allowed between partners, or no coaching.

1pocket is a game that has often been likened to chess because so much of the game is the knowledge you have accumulated over the years and bring to a game and knowing when to make the right move. Whether 1pocket or chess, IMO it cannot possibly be considered anything but cheating to have a superior player whispering in your ear while playing a match.

Thankfully, from my perspective, it did not change the final outcome of my match with John. But perhaps it could have if the coaching had gone on into day two.

Lou Figueroa
 
Anyone who places faith in an optometrist for serious issues of the eyes is making a bad bet. The correct professional to see is an ophthalmologist...most top professionals nowadays use the laser method.(y)(y)
That will be my next move. I had my surgery in 1980 and went from being ridiculously nearsighted to no corrective lenses at all for the next 30 years when I started to need reading glasses. Lasik didn't come out for more than a decade. Had I been able to see the future I probably would have waited but I don't really have regrets. I still see plenty well to live my life I just have this bad habit called pool that gives me unique desires about my vision. Compared to many vision problems what I'm up against is fine tuning, not really a serious medical condition. I can shoot pool at a pretty decent level still without any correction at all so I thank the lord every day for my blessings.
 
That will be my next move. I had my surgery in 1980 and went from being ridiculously nearsighted to no corrective lenses at all for the next 30 years when I started to need reading glasses. Lasik didn't come out for more than a decade. Had I been able to see the future I probably would have waited but I don't really have regrets. I still see plenty well to live my life I just have this bad habit called pool that gives me unique desires about my vision. Compared to many vision problems what I'm up against is fine tuning, not really a serious medical condition. I can shoot pool at a pretty decent level still without any correction at all so I thank the lord every day for my blessings.
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.
In spite of my heathen ranting in here, at times......I pray every night in thanks that Jesus Christ is my personal savior.
I hope your 'credit is standing good' with him as well. ✝️
 
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About an hour before the match, there is a kerfuffle in the main room across from where I’m standing with Dustin and Mike. John starts woofing at Eric. I want to clarify: Eric was not part of my crew. I know Eric going back to the days of RSB and when I saw him at Sandcastle I went up to greet him. That’s it.

“Come on Eric, let’s play a quick race to five for a thousand,” John woofs. Eric basically tells John to go fornicate himself. But John persists. He will not stop goading Eric and soon Eric has had enough and he and John are literally nose-to-nose, pool balls clutched in fists. I’m watching all this from the other side of the pool room and thinking, “There will be no match and oh, BTW, John is going to require some serious dental work tomorrow.” Fortunately, AZer, Mitch, is nearby and he steps in and reminds both parties that many folks want to see the match come off and they should back off and not jeopardize the game. They separate.

Lou Figueroa

Pool balls were not clutched in fists. I didn't goad him but using the first three letter of the word you chose Eric said to me that he was there to see an "old fashioned goat f*******ing". He then "double dog dared" me to say another word. (yes he said double dog dare) To which I said something like "any word"? He did NOTHING but stood there after I said another word.

The fact is that he had previously threatened me on two occasions. He also flat out lied on this forum and said that I had called him a "chink" in public at the SBE. He has lied numerous time about our interactions. Every time that we "talked" about playing he has resorted to violence despite agreeing to play. So when he showed up I thought let's kill two birds with one stone and challenged him to play AGAIN. I knew he was only there to antagonize me with his presence. There was no "nose to nose" - we were five feet away me on the corner of one table and him on the corner of another.

This has been another episode of Lou's "stories".

I had him removed from the arena after the match started. No he was not part of your "crew" but he upset me and as this was my show that I paid for I got to decide if he was allowed to stay. You actually said on this forum that I interacted with him to avoid playing you. Get real. If I wanted to avoid playing you I simply would not have played you. I don't need to get into a physical fight with a person who threatens violence and has alluded to his gun fetish in order to intimidate me. I would have simply said I don't want to play and given my reasons. But there was no way I was not going to play. I arranged the show, I paid the expenses for AccuStats to stream it, I paid the table mechanic to move the table into the arena and back out again when done. And I paid for it by enduring your bullying and backstabbing for many years.

I was not scared of you then and I am not scared of you now. You're nothing more than another evil troll who happens to be a pool player. If you had another hobby instead of pool chances are you would be doing the same thing on a forum dedicated to that hobby.
 
Somewhere around the last third of my match with John, like when we are 5-3, Dennis Spears walked into the arena. I don’t know Dennis but I was told that he is a local open level player that plays pros like John Schmidt 1pocket even. He goes and sits next to John’s wife. I pretty much ignored him and didn’t think anything of his presence in John’s corner, even though he would clap loudly every time John would make a good shot.
We progress to the point in the match where I have John 6-3 and eventually, late in one of the next two games, John shoots an intentional laying the CB up behind two balls on the spot. The owed ball is spotted and I am now sandwiched between two balls and I think to myself, “No way John knows that shot.” John says he learned that shot from someone from St. Louis and I can buy that. I myself learned it years ago watching a match featuring Mark Jarvis with Freddy the Beard commentating. If I recall correctly, Mark loses the last game and Freddy comes out of the booth and tells him the shot. Mark sets it up, shoots it, and a light bulb comes on.

In any case, now I start to pay attention to John’s corner.

My wife has often said I have hearing like a dog. What I start to notice is that from my player’s chair Dennis is sitting out of my line of sight, literally crouched down behind one of the arena’s wooden pillars. So now I’m trying to listen in to what Dennis is saying to John every time I’m near the left corner pocket near John’s corner.

Some folks have wondered, “What could anyone say to John in a just couple of seconds that would benefit him?” But it was way more than that. The entire time I was standing at the table trying to figure out what I was going to do, Dennis was mumbling away to John with plenty of time to assess the table and brief him on his options. Dennis was doing that while holding both hands up to his mouth, sort of like you see baseball players during a pitcher/catcher mound conference.

I feel that John getting coached cost me at least one of the two games John goes on to win at that point, and we finish the night at 8-6. (And no: there was no prior discussion, much less agreement, on cornermen or coaching.)

So immediately after the conclusion of play the first night I walk over to the far side of the arena where AZers Koop and Mitch are sitting and I ask them if they could see what was going on in John’s corner and one of them says, “Oh yeah. It was totally obvious from here that he was getting coached. We had a clear view of it.”

So I go up to Ed, the owner of Sandcastle, who was still in the booth, having done commentary, and we have the following conversation:

Lou: “I got a complaint.”

Ed: “What is it?”

Lou: “John was getting coached by the black guy in his corner.”

Ed: “Oh yeah. I could see it from the booth. I was waiting for you to say something to put an end to it.”

Lou: “It can’t happen tomorrow.”

Ed: “OK.”
My corner slept the coaching. I don’t blame them. We’re all pretty new to this kind of stuff and to be honest we never thought anyone would stoop to that. In any case, I know they have beaten themselves up enough about it. So that’s the answer to why Lou’s corner didn’t say anything.

The next day before John and I start again, I go up to Ed again and we have this conversation:

Lou “There cannot be any coaching today.”


Ed: “I talked to John about it and he admitted to it and I told him that can’t be going on.”

Lou: “All I know is that I won’t tolerate it today.”
And what Ed does is to talk to Dennis, one of his room players, and tells him he cannot sit anywhere near John, and that was the end of that.

Lou Figueroa
You are SUCH AN EFFING LIAR - I would never admit to something that was not happening.
 
Somewhere around the last third of my match with John, like when we are 5-3, Dennis Spears walked into the arena. I don’t know Dennis but I was told that he is a local open level player that plays pros like John Schmidt 1pocket even. He goes and sits next to John’s wife. I pretty much ignored him and didn’t think anything of his presence in John’s corner, even though he would clap loudly every time John would make a good shot.
We progress to the point in the match where I have John 6-3 and eventually, late in one of the next two games, John shoots an intentional laying the CB up behind two balls on the spot. The owed ball is spotted and I am now sandwiched between two balls and I think to myself, “No way John knows that shot.” John says he learned that shot from someone from St. Louis and I can buy that. I myself learned it years ago watching a match featuring Mark Jarvis with Freddy the Beard commentating. If I recall correctly, Mark loses the last game and Freddy comes out of the booth and tells him the shot. Mark sets it up, shoots it, and a light bulb comes on.

In any case, now I start to pay attention to John’s corner.

My wife has often said I have hearing like a dog. What I start to notice is that from my player’s chair Dennis is sitting out of my line of sight, literally crouched down behind one of the arena’s wooden pillars. So now I’m trying to listen in to what Dennis is saying to John every time I’m near the left corner pocket near John’s corner.

Some folks have wondered, “What could anyone say to John in a just couple of seconds that would benefit him?” But it was way more than that. The entire time I was standing at the table trying to figure out what I was going to do, Dennis was mumbling away to John with plenty of time to assess the table and brief him on his options. Dennis was doing that while holding both hands up to his mouth, sort of like you see baseball players during a pitcher/catcher mound conference.

I feel that John getting coached cost me at least one of the two games John goes on to win at that point, and we finish the night at 8-6. (And no: there was no prior discussion, much less agreement, on cornermen or coaching.)

So immediately after the conclusion of play the first night I walk over to the far side of the arena where AZers Koop and Mitch are sitting and I ask them if they could see what was going on in John’s corner and one of them says, “Oh yeah. It was totally obvious from here that he was getting coached. We had a clear view of it.”

So I go up to Ed, the owner of Sandcastle, who was still in the booth, having done commentary, and we have the following conversation:

Lou: “I got a complaint.”

Ed: “What is it?”

Lou: “John was getting coached by the black guy in his corner.”

Ed: “Oh yeah. I could see it from the booth. I was waiting for you to say something to put an end to it.”

Lou: “It can’t happen tomorrow.”

Ed: “OK.”
My corner slept the coaching. I don’t blame them. We’re all pretty new to this kind of stuff and to be honest we never thought anyone would stoop to that. In any case, I know they have beaten themselves up enough about it. So that’s the answer to why Lou’s corner didn’t say anything.

The next day before John and I start again, I go up to Ed again and we have this conversation:

Lou “There cannot be any coaching today.”


Ed: “I talked to John about it and he admitted to it and I told him that can’t be going on.”

Lou: “All I know is that I won’t tolerate it today.”
And what Ed does is to talk to Dennis, one of his room players, and tells him he cannot sit anywhere near John, and that was the end of that.

Lou Figueroa
So, even after I BUSTED this narrative with video and timestamps you continue with the BS. Gotta hand it to you for maintaining your professional LIAR skills long after you weren't getting paid to do it.

The video of my play is enough to show anyone that I wasn't being coached. This is ALL that you have to justify the fact that you could not prevent me from winning games. I handed you the games you won and earned the games I won.
 
You are SUCH AN EFFING LIAR - I would never admit to something that was not happening.

When I don’t recall *exactly* what someone has said, I try to accurately present their words after a colon.

When I recall *exactly* what a person has said, I use quotation marks. What Ed meant or thought or what you think you said or didn’t say is unknown to me but that’s *exactly* what he said.

I wrote the account in question shortly after the match and have posted it before and will let it speak for itself along with all the eye witness reports from the match from AZers who saw you getting coached.

Lou Figueroa
 
In all my years of playing 1pocket, coaching has always been verboten. Even in a partners game, it is a point of negotiation: coaching allowed between partners, or no coaching.

1pocket is a game that has often been likened to chess because so much of the game is the knowledge you have accumulated over the years and bring to a game and knowing when to make the right move. Whether 1pocket or chess, IMO it cannot possibly be considered anything but cheating to have a superior player whispering in your ear while playing a match.

Thankfully, from my perspective, it did not change the final outcome of my match with John. But perhaps it could have if the coaching had gone on into day two.

Lou Figueroa
You are about as DUMB as a box of rocks. Coaching in partners games is COMMON and is a negotiable point. You can't help but to get your lies confused. You tell stories about your extensive pool hall experiences but then in service to bolstering your false accusation you show us that you either don't know jack about one pocket gambling OR that you haven't really ever done much of it in your life OR both. Seriously, one pocket games WITH coaching are made in poolrooms EVERY DAY in America.

Again, as I told you IF my intention had been to get coached covertly then I would have brought someone in with whom I had worked out the signals as it was done (and still is done) in the past. You would have never known and we would have made you look foolish. But that's not who I am. I showed up and played my heart out with all of my quirks and bad habits. Dennis did try to encourage me and sometimes would mumble something about which ball to look at but I wasn't listening to him because I could barely understand him when I was standing face to face and concentrating on trying to hear his words. I did ask him to be a corner man of sorts and keep me grounded and he would say things like stay cool and a few other phrases that had nothing to do with the shot at hand.

And yes he showed up in the middle of the match. And yes after he showed up it did calm me down a little. I guess if I planned on cheating then it would have been better for him to be there from the start so that the chance to give you games would be greatly diminished. You are amazingly dense which is not surprising.
 
When I don’t recall *exactly* what someone has said, I try to accurately present their words after a colon.

When I recall *exactly* what a person has said, I use quotation marks. What Ed meant or thought or what you think you said or didn’t say is unknown to me but that’s exactly what he said to me.

I wrote the account in question shortly after the match and have posted it before and will let it speak for itself along with all the eye witness reports from the match from AZers who saw you getting coached.

Lou Figueroa
Eye witness reports? Not a single one of them would hold up in a simple forensic investigation. You're a known liar. So everything you say concerning the match is suspect.
 
Even in a partners game, it is a point of negotiation: coaching allowed between partners, or no coaching. your false accusation you show us that you either don't know jack about one pocket gambling OR that you haven't really ever done much of it in your life OR both. Seriously, one pocket games WITH coaching are made in poolrooms EVERY DAY in America.

Again, as I told you IF my intention had been to get coached covertly then I would have brought someone in with whom I had worked out the signals as it was done (and still is done) in the past. You would have never known and we would have made you look foolish. But that's not who I am. I showed up and played my heart out with all of my quirks and bad habits. Dennis did try to encourage me and sometimes would mumble something about which ball to look at but I wasn't listening to him because I could barely understand him when I was standing face to face and concentrating on trying to hear his words. I did ask him to be a corner man of sorts and keep me grounded and he would say things like stay cool and a few other phrases that had nothing to do with the shot at hand.

And yes he showed up in the middle of the match. And yes after he showed up it did calm me down a little. I guess if I planned on cheating then it would have been better for him to be there from the start so that the chance to give you games would be greatly diminished. You are amazingly dense which is not surprising.

Well, there’s that problem with reading comprehension again.

I said, “Even in a partners game, it is a point of negotiation: coaching allowed between partners, or no coaching.”

So who is as dumb as a box of rocks now, John?

Lou Figueroa
 
Eye witness reports? Not a single one of them would hold up in a simple forensic investigation. You're a known liar. So everything you say concerning the match is suspect.

This is not a court of law, John.

In your case it does not even rise to the level of a high school debate, lol.

Lou Figueroa
 
Only the lord knows how long it took to make that video. Notice none of the shots are consecutive. We could all do this if given the time and film.

Three railer side pocket, take 315 and Action!

This was a fun drill, it took me about 15-20 tries to get all six in a row.

True. But the fact is that he clearly credits CTE with giving the framework to get a shot line. In other words he is saying that his make percentages for each of those shots is HIGHER because of his mastery of CTE aiming. Do you think that he is lying?

Your video was simple in comparison to the uncut videos Stan has done where he makes shots to multiple holes in one take. The proof of concept stands. Yours proved that you could do it from one location that you chose on relatively simple shots and Stan's proved that he can do it from multiple locations with shots that went from simple to difficult both with and without a blocking curtain.

If you can do that in 10-15 minutes with a simple set of shots what might you be able to do with more time and a really good aiming framework?
 
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