L.S. Dennis
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Just wondering is it illegal to casually place your chalk on a diamond after chalking up (with the intention of using it for a marker) before geting down to shoot from a different part of the table?
Yes it is a foul. Placing your stick on the table without holding it is a foul too.Just wondering is it illegal to casually place your chalk on a diamond after chalking up (with the intention of using it for a marker) before geting down to shoot from a different part of the table?
FoulJust wondering is it illegal to casually place your chalk on a diamond after chalking up (with the intention of using it for a marker) before geting down to shoot from a different part of the table?
That struck me as odd as well... However yes, a foul in any set of rules I've played by.Am I missing something? I know it's a foul, but why would you need to mark a sight?
Don't know the 'rule' regarding proof. However, I've never seen a player but an object into their field of view before playing a shot. Usually they'll go out their way to remove something that may be distracting. ...so after the first instance I'd make a polite suggestion not to do it again. If it was a habit I'd get an organizer to watch the the opponent's play.How do you prove intent?
Negligent table-marking: FoulHow do you prove intent?
This is precisely the point, is it also a foul ANY time the chalk is inadvertently layerd on a diamond whether using it as a marker or not? And why would someone put a marker on a diamond that is meant for a sight assistance? That’s easy because when you are down low in your stance you can not always see the diamond in the rail.How do you prove intent?
He really is a scoundrel.This is precisely the point, is it also a foul ANY time the chalk is inadvertently layerd on a diamond whether using it as a marker or not? And why would someone put a marker on a diamond that is meant for a sight assistance? That’s easy because when you are down low in your stance you can not always see the diamond in the rail.
I believe I read a post that Bob wrote once where he says he does it once in a while, and he knows the rules better than anyone else!
Can't tar and feather him,it leaves a mess in the pool hall.He really is a scoundrel.
I've recently been admonished while playing billiards for leaving chalk on the rail after missing. Large data sample!Bob Byrne tells a story about Bob Bills who used to own Palace Billiards in San Francisco (until about 1980). He was playing in a golf game on a 6x12 snooker table. (Golf is a game where each player has his own object ball and the goal is to make it in each of the six pockets around the table in order. It has a lot of kicking, banking and safety play. Also, there are often six or more people playing. They are not playing for fun. Anyways....)
Bob has his ball by the required side pocket but the guy who shot just before him left the cue ball on the same side rail so Bob has to kick cross-side to make his ball and advance to the next pocket. Bob carefully measures out the kick by the double-the-distance formula and places his chalk on the rail by where he has to hit. While he is walking the 20 feet back to the cue ball to shoot the kick, one of the players in the game stretches his cue out and moves the chalk a few inches to the right. Bob notices nothing, gets down on the shot, shoots, and makes his ball.
Sometimes it's better to leave bad enough alone.
At snooker the players to not leave their chalk on the table for fear of being thought to be marking a position. They will only do it when a stretch for a shot will crush the chalk. At carom, the players do leave their chalk on the table but are careful to leave it in a useless place. Sang Lee went further and placed it on a useless diamond.
There is a local carom player who warned his opponent about leaving chalk on the table. Next violation he picked it up and threw it at him and not gently.I've recently been admonished while playing billiards for leaving chalk on the rail after missing. Large data sample!
I tried to explain that it wasn't actually 'my' chalk, but my argument was not accepted at the table.
How do you prove intent?