Chalking before every shot

TheThaiger said:
Then buy it and see for yourself. And I said it was definitely my experience.

Anyway, this has been done to death, and pretty much proven by all that's used it. But you believe what you want to believe, chap.
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experience can be fallacious sometime. A guy in my pool room said, in base of his experience, he could give more sidespin using body english...
he then demonstrated a spin shot and he was twisting his body to the right saying he was giving more spin than he normally could without body english ( lol). You also said throw in new table conditions ( new cloth) is unexistent, that's definetely untrue.
 
TheThaiger said:
Then buy it and see for yourself. And I said it was definitely my experience.

Anyway, this has been done to death, and pretty much proven by all that's used it. But you believe what you want to believe, chap.
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I have used it before and didn't notice any extra spin. That is why I was curious how you can say it definitely adds more spin.
 
Slh said:
experience can be fallacious sometime. A guy in my pool room said, in base of his experience, he could give more sidespin using body english...
he then demonstrated a spin shot and he was twisting his body to the right saying he was giving more spin than he normally could without body english ( lol). You also said throw in new table conditions ( new cloth) is unexistent, that's definetely untrue.
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No, i said it was lessened to the point of being irrelevant. I also said this was tournament conditions, with brand new Siminis 860 and unused Super Aramith Pros. But I should have made it clearer I meant throw on shots made at a certain pace - obviously, very slow shots will still throw. I likes to whack 'em.

It is your choice who you chose to follow and yours alone.
 
TheThaiger said:
No, it's DEFINITELY my experience. And I'm hardly alone...
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Yeah, that's my experience also.

I have changed my PSR, and taken the chalking step completely out.

There is a downside to chalking every shot, and that is the amount of chalk dust that accumulates on everything... that's the main reason I wanted to try the Kamui. It is a happy coincidence that the chalk also performs very well.
 
On a slightly different note, I know many who think that Masters changed their formula from pre-flag to current even though the folks at Masters state there was no formula change. How likely is it that the reason it seems to play differently is that if it is that old, it has likely dried out. The reason I ask is that I about 2/3 of a gross of preflag that I bought around 1990, and it has dried out so much that the paper has separated from the chalk. The cubes are really hard.
 
I've chalked my cue like that for about 20 years now, personally I have found it covers the tip more evenly.


Tobermory said:
About a year and a half ago I read an article which advised that the best way to chalk a cue was to RUB the chalk across the tip rather than boring into the chalk with the tip. Eventually you wind up with a piece of chalk the surface of which undulates. Its concavity fits the convexity of the tip of your cue very closely and makes chalking easier and more effective. I gather that European players frequently do this.

So I tried it. I got a new piece of Master chalk and took a carpenter's file and filed the exposed side of the cube down so that it was completely flat and didn't have that little indentation in it any longer that comes in the chalk from the manufacturer. I became a rubber instead of a borer. A year later, I love it. I don't have to chalk nearly as often and when I do I have much more confidence that I am covering the tip completely.

I have gathered from others that this is something I should have learned to do when I was much younger.
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after the shot chalk

weakfingers said:
Personally, I incorporate chalking into my pre-shot routine, chalking before every shot I take (especially during more important matches or games).

I was reading a review on Kamui chalk, and I have personally used it a couple times, and it's some nice stuff. You truly don't have to chalk every shot. You could apply it every couple of shots.

The thing I was wondering, though, is even if you don't "need" to chalk every shot, wouldn't you want to, say, in an important game or match? Why take the chance of not having the tip evenly coated with chalk? If I had a cube of Kamui, I'd probably want to chalk more often just for safe keeping.

Thoughts?
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I only chalk up after ever shot :help:
MMike
 
I've chalked before every shot since I can remember. I got it drummed into me back when I played snooker. I've tried in practice only chalking before each rack and it makes it much more difficult run out. Not because of miscues but because shot say, 8 feels completely different to shot 1 and because I'm not used to the feel of a tip with little to no chalk on it, judging the speed of your needed stroke means under hitting or over hitting the shot. Try it. Shoot a straight in shot 15 times chalking every shot and try stop the CB 2ft beyond where the OB was then try it with chalking before the 15 balls.

That's why I wouldn't waste money on a kamui chalk when a cheap old masters would last me as long. Not only that, I just don't believe all the hype about kamui chalk. Granted, its obviously good but can it really create more spin? Even if it does, its hardly going to add 3ft to your maximum draw. Masters or Blue Diamond are good enough for the pros and more than good enough for me.
 
swest said:
Yeah, that's my experience also.

I have changed my PSR, and taken the chalking step completely out.

There is a downside to chalking every shot, and that is the amount of chalk dust that accumulates on everything... that's the main reason I wanted to try the Kamui. It is a happy coincidence that the chalk also performs very well.
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Exactly how I feel. Ive been using it for a year and am on the same piece. I Just got back from a trip, I didnt take it with me and my hands were covered in blue chalk. I will never go back to conventional chalk.
 
Tennesseejoe said:
I don't chalk before every shot because I use Kamui. When a shot needing more English comes up then I chalk. I have noticed a decrease in chalk on my home table using Kamui --- but then again it's not for everybody (especially old geezers who still use ivory ferrules). LOL
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There's nothing wrong with Ivory Ferrules :) (Disclaimer: I know elephants will disagree). One just has to adjust for squirt more than an LD shaft.
 
Medalist said:
Exactly how I feel. Ive been using it for a year and am on the same piece. I Just got back from a trip, I didnt take it with me and my hands were covered in blue chalk. I will never go back to conventional chalk.
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Yeah, I think I've had the piece I use for about a year now also...

Best $27.50 w/free shipping I ever spent :wink:
 
I chalk before every shot. When it's my turn to shoot, I pick up the chalk and chalk while I take a look at the table. If I get down on a shot and something just doesn't look or feel right, I'll actually chalk a 2nd time. Chalking is basically a way of ensuring that I really evaluate the table instead of just glancing at it and taking the first shot I see.

On a side note, I don't carry a pocket chalker (don't want chalk on my jeans and such) so I use the cube that sitting on the rail. Because of that, I won't chalk after a shot during a game. I figure my opponent doesn't want me standing there at the table while they're trying to do their thing and they don't want me sitting behind them grinding a cube of chalk across my tip.
 
My answer 2 Chalk .

Yes use it.
I was taught in my mid 20's it helps you slow down. ( Yes, I do forget too.) Even if you are on a roll and see the full lay out of the table. You need to not let your self shoot faster and faster. That is where you make problem for yourself.

You know the .... aw man it rolled to far, No no wrong english, or the famous.. I didnt see that happeing me.

Of course you will never hear... HEY, chalk is free... :)
 
try this then....

TheThaiger said:
Sounds crackers to me.
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place the cue ball on the long rail, diamond nbr 1. use three o'clock english (to impart deflection), and fire the cue ball hard into the corner pocket that is 5 diamonds down the rail....the cue ball will squirt, and you miss the pocket.


Next, do the same, but wipe all chalk off beforehand...

What is the result ? I believe you will see LESS deflection.

Let me know what you think.....

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