Chinese Documentary about pool players

Wow,

Thanks for posting that up I enjoyed it!!!

Wish it was available in English????

They actually showed shots of the billiard academy and it is AWESOME!!!

They are really serious about pool! At the 2007 World Pool Championships in Manilla, The Chinese sent 40 players to compete for slots in the feeder tournaments. I never saw anything like it! The coach wanted to get the best chance of success by sending massive numbers and improving China's number of participants in the event !!!

KD
 
seelesscacti said:
How is Chinese 8-Ball played... is that the version of caroming the object balls off the cue ball?

How is 3-5-7 played?
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I am not entirely sure. I think it's very similar to English 8 Ball.

3-5-7 is played with the one ball, the three ball and the 11 ball. In order to score you have to make three caroms consecutively, 1. a carom between yellow and ONE of the red balls, 2. a carom between the two red balls and 3. a carom with all three balls. When you do that you get paid by the other players.
 
English version?

poolnoob said:
A 48 minutes long documentary about Pan XT, Chen SiMing and Zhou DouDou, around the 8 minute mark Pan imitating few female players, K Corr, K Fisher, A Fisher, Ga YK...Towards the end, a 7 year boy playing pool since he was 3 years old. Gives an insight about pool scene in China.
http://www.top147.com/news/main/20120214/20120214108178.htm
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Where is the link to the English version?:grin::grin::grin:
 
The influence of Taiwanese players and coaches is heavy in China.
XTP's coach is Taiwanese. SM Chan's coach is Wu. You see Chao in the video. There are numerous Taiwanese pros/semi-pros who can't make a living competing in Taiwan or want to build a pool related business in China.

I think the level of play for the women in China is higher than Taiwan. But the level of play for the men is still higher in Taiwan.
 
I was there for 3 weeks last October. Didn't see many pool halls. Found a nice one downstairs in Beijing and only had 9 footers with bright green cloth (similar to some in PI), snooker cut pockets and super boingy / fast cloth. Pocketing balls took some time getting used to it. Next time back I will search out more pool halls and play a little more.
 
TheThaiger said:
I play with a lot of Chinese/Taiwanese players and they're all, to a man, hopeless. Not sure why. Either way, there's gold in china for coaches.
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I live in Shanghai and all i can say to that comment is "come on over and bring plenty of money". I know plenty of your so called "hopeless" players here that you can try if you've got the stones to do it.
 
Are the programs that can translate the audio from mandarin to english? I do not know of any, it's really worth watching imo.

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GADawg said:
I live in Shanghai and all i can say to that comment is "come on over and bring plenty of money". I know plenty of your so called "hopeless" players here that you can try if you've got the stones to do it.
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Hey GADawg, Since you are in Shanghai do you have any idea how many pool halls are in Shanghai?
 
Quesports said:
Hey GADawg, Since you are in Shanghai do you have any idea how many pool halls are in Shanghai?
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I don't think there are 2000 but there are a lot although some close and others open all the time.

I play in what is supposed to be the largest room in Shanghai. It is on the top floor of a large shopping mall. I think there are almost 60 tables on two floors, mostly 9 foot pool tables but a few snooker tables also. Go in on the weekend and you will wait to get a table.

One of the owners is from Taiwan and an old friend. I'll see him tonight probably and ask if he has a better idea of how many rooms there are.
 
JB Cases said:
I am not entirely sure. I think it's very similar to English 8 Ball.

3-5-7 is played with the one ball, the three ball and the 11 ball. In order to score you have to make three caroms consecutively, 1. a carom between yellow and ONE of the red balls, 2. a carom between the two red balls and 3. a carom with all three balls. When you do that you get paid by the other players.
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I have played in some 8 ball tournaments in the past with Shanghai Billiard Association refs. The only difference from world standard rules at that time was that a three foul rule was in effect.

In Shanghai the game you call 3-5-7 is called 2-5-8. No idea why the different name. Same game though and VERY difficult except for the best players. Here is only played by the pros. I am only an observer.

I have seen three people, on different occasions, score four times consecutively. Chao Fong Pang, Wu Jia Qing, and Sherman Liu ( a former Taiwan pro).
 
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Properly around 200 poolhalls increasing........about 50-60% poolhalls have Taiwan coaches or managers........
Coz it had been closed down about 200 poolhalls just in Taipei........some people look for second chance in China......
 
Been wanting to jump into this thread for while...just been busy and travelling.

I haven't watch the documentary but will do so over the weekend to see what it's all about. Thanks for posting Daric.

There's a post somewhere that mentions that the chinese can't play? I could be phrasing wrong..too lazy to scroll back to quote. I can't say all of them play good either, but i can tell you that those that can play, play dam bloody well. Many of whom can easily go onto world tournys, only problem is they don't know how to and there's no platform to.

Chinese Pool also known as Chinese Style Black 8, is played on 9 footer table with Snooker cut pockets (that fits a ball and less than a half a inch excess space), snooker cloth and snooker rails. It's a tough game that really requires alot of precision...It plays different from regular american pool, besides requiring more precision, ball travels much slower like on snooker table. The way CB placings are made are also quite different, they tend to use more slide to place as opposed to taking too many rails. There's also no markers on the rail, unlike Pool table.
Players also prefer using stiffer shafts when playing on these mini-snooker table.

Like what John mentioned these Mini-Snooker tables are popular in the northern regions of China, you'd be hard pressed finding regular pool table in those regions. As you move South, American pool becomes popular and where John is located, Xiamen, american pool is a huge deal there due to Taiwanese influence cos geographically Xiamen is the nearest neighbour.

I've been fortunate enough to witness lots of gambling matches, and where i stay mini-snooker is a bigger game than pool. Gambling is a huge deal too. I've seen matches that plays for $1500 per set and each game can run up to 40sets... many of these players are professional gamblers(with backers) travelling around china making a living. Some are resident coaches in pool halls but their employers allows them to go out gambling in other cities as that's good propaganda for the pool hall. These pro gamblers prefer to remain anonymous and shun tournaments as gambling rakes in more cash than tournys and by exposing themselves in tournys they risk giving high handicaps when setting new gambling sets.

I'll continue when i get a chance too...gotta catch a flight now..
 
GADawg said:
I live in Shanghai and all i can say to that comment is "come on over and bring plenty of money". I know plenty of your so called "hopeless" players here that you can try if you've got the stones to do it.
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The latest in a long line of extraordinary comments. You're most welcome to come to my poolhall and see how bad they are for yourself.
 
TheThaiger said:
You are...
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Then you should rephrase your comment then. It sounds like me saying all American can't play pool because there are a few bangers I play with in Shanghai. I know that's not what you said. But you came off sounding real disrespectful and arrogant.
 
SplicedPoints said:
Then you should rephrase your comment then. It sounds like me saying all American can't play pool because there are a few bangers I play with in Shanghai. I know that's not what you said. But you came off sounding real disrespectful and arrogant.
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Really? You derive that conclusion from this?

I play with a lot of Chinese/Taiwanese players and they're all, to a man, hopeless. Not sure why. Either way, there's gold in china for coaches.

Extraordinary.
 
TheThaiger said:
Really? You derive that conclusion from this?

I play with a lot of Chinese/Taiwanese players and they're all, to a man, hopeless. Not sure why. Either way, there's gold in china for coaches.

Extraordinary.
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Ok, I'll play. Yep, Tim, as I read that, I *do* get it that you're stereotyping. "I play with a lot" (that last word is the key operative word) "of Chinese/Taiwanese players, and they're all" (last word, again, is the key operative word) "to a man, hopeless."

And then you go on to say, "Either way, there's gold in china for coaches." Wow. C'mon, you mean to tell me you're adopting a false innocence facade, and going to tell me you didn't try to slip an innuendo in there?

-Sean
 
sfleinen said:
Ok, I'll play. Yep, Tim, as I read that, I *do* get it that you're stereotyping. "I play with a lot" (that last word is the key operative word) "of Chinese/Taiwanese players, and they're all" (last word, again, is the key operative word) "to a man, hopeless."

And then you go on to say, "Either way, there's gold in china for coaches." Wow. C'mon, you mean to tell me you're adopting a false innocence facade, and going to tell me you didn't try to slip an innuendo in there?

-Sean
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Surely not sure why - the bit you omit, strangely - is the part that adds context?

There are 3000 chinese students in my city, and you can probably add that figure again as permanent residents, and NOT ONE can hold a cue.

Just reporting the facts, Sean. Don't get your panties in a twist if you don't like it. You're as welcome as that other fella to come and see for yourself. If there were 3000 British students in Beijing, 300 could hold a cue, 30 could cue and 3 would be champions. I know why this is for Britain, but for China, not...sure...why...

Just so I know, is EVERY post I make on here going to be forensically examined for inaccuracy, clumsiness or hyperbole?
 
TheThaiger said:
Surely not sure why - the bit you omit, strangely - is the part that adds context?

There are 3000 chinese students in my city, and you can probably add that figure again as permanent residents, and NOT ONE can hold a cue.

Just reporting the facts, Sean. Don't get your panties in a twist if you don't like it. You're as welcome as that other fella to come and see for yourself. If there were 3000 British students in Beijing, 300 could hold a cue, 30 could cue and 3 would be champions. I know why this is for Britain, but for China, not...sure...why...

Just so I know, is EVERY post I make on here going to be forensically examined for inaccuracy, clumsiness or hyperbole?
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Tim:

The inclusion of the "not sure why" is, as we both know, escapist. You want to make a statement, but then you want to back away from it, and absolve yourself of all responsibility for saying it. It's like you're trying to give yourself a free ticket to say this.

As for me getting my panties in a twist, not really. Am I challenging you on your escapist retreat from what you said, trying to use the "not sure why" as an excuse? You bet. Am I mad at you? Nah, no way. I've come to expect these kinds of things from you. Afterall, you are TheContrarian, are you not? :D

In all seriousness, you could've said what you wanted to say a lot less "stereotypish" (if that's a word?). For example:

"I'm not sure why, and I know it probably goes against the rest of the world's experience as expressed here on these forums, but the Chinese/Taiwanese players that I play a lot with, can't play well, much less qualify as world-beaters."

Doesn't that read a LOT less "stereotypish" than your original statement? You are more than welcome to express your views. But when you come across with sweeping broadside statements like you do, you CAN'T expect not to be challenged on them.

-Sean
 
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