chinese players and their cues

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I still find it funny that top Taiwanese players, arguably the best in the world, like fat shafts of solid maple with regular ferrules. Most of their cues would be on the heavier side, also.

Everybody is always so eager to ask "what kind of shaft/cue/tip XYZ is using" and rushing for the latest gadgets, while the Taiwanese are kicking ass with old-school stuff.

Well, it's not exactly cheap old school stuff.....You can get a lot of Revos and Cuetecs for the price of a Southwest or whatever insanely costly collectors cue these guys are using, not to speak of reasonably priced cues. Anyway, as you know, a good player can play with anything, and a bad player will mostly blame the equipment for his or her performance.

Everytime someone wins a tournament, there will be some guy thinking that surely, it must have been the laser cut tip, or the carbon shaft or whatever else that pro got handed to him some time in the past that won the tournament and not the guy actually holding that equipment and his years of training. Looking at AZB there will be such a thread quite frequently.

Because all those pros use those old school cues in Taiwan, they are popular even with not so good players, while where I play, every other guy has a Revo or Cuetec carbon. No cost is too high, apart from table time costs, it seems. In fact, the high price actually helps make them more popular. They must be good at that price, right?

It's almost become a joke. If you wanted to hustle someone here, you'd get a Revo, because everyone would think you couldn't play. (OK that may be an exaggeration, but there's some truth to it). Usually the players that struggle are the most eager to change something, and because people are generally lazy, they change the equipment instead of their technique. So you'll see tons of mediocre and bad players with Carbon cues, while the best (unless sponsored) often stick to what got them there, or constantly change without sticking really to anything.

Don't get me wrong, carbon is the future and it's here to stay. People will still suck or excell according to their talent and work ethic, with or without such a cue or a fancy collector cue.
 
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If you want to know what the majority of the pro Taiwanese play with, ask Timothy Soong on here.

He lives in Taiwan and sells and buys cues there.

They like stiff maple shafts of 13mm, or more, with deflection.

They don't want LD shafts.

I'm sure some of them will eventually convert to carbon, but, for now, wood is king.
 
Well, it's not exactly cheap old school stuff.....You can get a lot of Revos and Cuetecs for the price of a Southwest or whatever insanely costly collectors cue these guys are using, not to speak of reasonably priced cues. Anyway, as you know, a good player can play with anything, and a bad player will mostly blame the equipment for his or her performance.

Everytime someone wins a tournament, there will be some guy thinking that surely, it must have been the laser cut tip, or the carbon shaft or whatever else that pro got handed to him some time in the past that won the tournament and not the guy actually holding that equipment and his years of training. Looking at AZB there will be such a thread quite frequently.

Because all those pros use those old school cues in Taiwan, they are popular even with not so good players, while where I play, every other guy has a Revo or Cuetec carbon. No cost is too high, apart from table time costs, it seems. In fact, the high price actually helps make them more popular. They must be good at that price, right?

It's almost become a joke. If you wanted to hustle someone here, you'd get a Revo, because everyone would think you couldn't play. (OK that may be an exaggeration, but there's some truth to it). Usually the players that struggle are the most eager to change something, and because people are generally lazy, they change the equipment instead of their technique. So you'll see tons of mediocre and bad players with Carbon cues, while the best (unless sponsored) often stick to what got them there, or constantly change without sticking really to anything.

Don't get me wrong, carbon is the future and it's here to stay. People will still suck or excell according to their talent and work ethic, with or without such a cue or a fancy collector cue.

I cant use the carbon, not that its bad, ive hit a few, I was even able to use it months before it came out from predator, I knew the Molinari guys and they deal with predator, and ive tried the ones from McDermott and cuetec, they feel and hit just fine, and im not a purist and say maple shafts are the shit, but I just like wood. its organic, I get to maintain it my way, I like the color change it gets after being used for a while, it makes me one with the cue. black shaft, needs a glove or the oil it collects is visible and gross looking, cant change it up much, your cue tip guy better be a ****ing robot when changing the tip, otherwise if he goes down a quarter millimwtwer the shaft cant be fixed or sanded down. it just seems like an iPhone, you can only use iPhone related shit with it, and the warranties are shit, and eventually youll need to upgrade again bc your old model wont download new apps.
 
Makes me wonder, if this thread was in China talking about what American players use, what'd they be saying?
 
I bought a predated South West from a player in Japan. I got a decent deal on it because it was definitely used with battle scars in the finish and glue in the wrap, but no deep gouges on the wood. Both shafts were over 13mm.
 
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