CJ Wiley Runs 29 balls in 1P using TOI
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14+15=29. I have a difficult time with math as well.
Ok...lol I thought he was talking about consecutively.
"I have some good news, and some bad news," and guess what the bad news was?
Of course we edit all footage, however, I will assure you they were done "one after another". I ran the 14 balls and thought it was 15, did the closing "tips on TOI" and that was that. Mary Avina took the camera down and went in to edit it and realized I had made a ball in the WRONG pocket on the break.
(It was brutally obvious because I even talked about it at the beginning of the run, saying I would spot the ball "if" I ran all of them out)
She went back and set up the camera, called me in (I was on the computer writing someone on Face Book) and said "I have some good news, and some bad news," - and guess what the bad news was? I had only ran 14 balls, so I racked them up again, and ran the 15 on the first try (after running the 14), which I think was "against all odds," however, that's the way the Game flows sometimes. 'The Game is the Teacher'
ps: I thank the Game for allowing me to accomplish this unusual feat, and since I haven't missed yet I may rack them up later tonight and try to run a couple more.
I wonder what the world record is? I ran 4 out of 5 practicing one time, I"m sure someone has ran more than 3 straight, I wonder if they got it on film though....hmmm :wink:
CJ Wiley Runs 29 balls in 1P using TOI
I dont understand this at all.The video was edited.Actually looks like one was done in the day the other at night.Do mean 15 and then a 14.
Anthony
Good shooting though.
Of course we edit all footage, however, I will assure you they were done "one after another". I ran the 14 balls and thought it was 15, did the closing "tips on TOI" and that was that. Mary Avina took the camera down and went in to edit it and realized I had made a ball in the WRONG pocket on the break.
(It was brutally obvious because I even talked about it at the beginning of the run, saying I would spot the ball "if" I ran all of them out)
She went back and set up the camera, called me in (I was on the computer writing someone on Face Book) and said "I have some good news, and some bad news," - and guess what the bad news was? I had only ran 14 balls, so I racked them up again, and ran the 15 on the first try (after running the 14), which I think was "against all odds," however, that's the way the Game flows sometimes. 'The Game is the Teacher'
ps: I thank the Game for allowing me to accomplish this unusual feat, and since I haven't missed yet I may rack them up later tonight and try to run a couple more.
I wonder what the world record is? I ran 4 out of 5 practicing one time, I"m sure someone has ran more than 3 straight, I wonder if they got it on film though....hmmm :wink:
If you're talking about the light change to the left of the fireplace (brighter before the cut). That's obviously from a camera.
On the 2nd rack, they probably didn't bother setting up all the equipment again.
Not that hard to figure out.
I have know doubt thats what it was.Or else it could of just been a partly cloudy day.
Anthony what is your problem?
The guy says he ran out twice in a row and he shows two run outs. Why the inquisition? Focus on the accomplishment.
Lately you have been really grouchy, something else bothering you? All these people posting real world results using their methods bugging you or something? You are a pioneer in this after all when it comes to posting videos of successfully pocketing balls. Only you have been very guarded about what you use for methods and CJ and others are very open about what they are doing.
Let's all focus on what we can learn from these demonstrations and not be so nitpicky.
Yes, because the sun coming through a window would be that bright.
I have No problem John .
I cant win here and yes I use systems but that doesnt mean Im gonna agree with everything on here.
Sorry the things i post bother you so much.
Hope all is well with you.
Anthony
Why are you trying to "win"? What possible reason do you have to call CJ's integrity into question here?
The reason that some of the things you have posted lately bother me because I would have never figured you for the type of person to run around calling people liars. Of all the people on the forum I would have thought you would be one of the most likely to appreciate CJ's accomplishment and demonstration.
I cant win arguments.
I know sometimes I get a little on disagreeing side of people,but that is because I dont agree with some of things there preaching.Even if Im wrong on things dosnt give you any rite to put me down for it.
We all have opinions, mine just aint worth anything.
What ever you think of me Its all good.
If you was as good at pool as arguing you could spot the world the 5.
Take care .
Anthony
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Another vote for Jeff. He just did my table about 6 months ago, the pockets are 4.25 at the points, I love it !!! Most of the timeThat's not true, you saw the two balls at the beginning and they will not come close to going in the pocket, this means it's less than 4.5.
Take a better look at that picture again, it's deceiving how small these pockets are, maybe I was able to do it because the color was blue.
It was raining outside too, so the table was playing slightly wet, and that means they were tighter than usual. The table has been recently recovered so it's only had a couple a weeks of play, so it will get even tighter in the near future.
That's very observant and yes, the lighting may have changed slightly
That's very observant and yes, the lighting would have changed slightly - after a ran the "15" (minus 1) balls I turned them out and went to my office. When Mary realized I hadn't ran the 15 Balls {as I had announced} she went back in and turned them on, probably moving them a bit. I'm pretty sure I unplugged one to plug a CD player so that light probably moved.
We had 3 sets of lights around the circumference of the room for "effect". My light above the table came with the house and needs to be upgraded, but for video it's difficult to use a regular "pool table" light.
I still think that worked out pretty cool and I'm glad to be able to share, it's the first time we've filmed since the 'Touch Of Inside" video. Our next project will start this week and I can "bank" on it.
That's very observant and yes, the lighting would have changed slightly - after a ran the "15" (minus 1) balls I turned them out and went to my office. When Mary realized I hadn't ran the 15 Balls {as I had announced} she went back in and turned them on, probably moving them a bit. I'm pretty sure I unplugged one to plug a CD player so that light probably moved.
We had 3 sets of lights around the circumference of the room for "effect". My light above the table came with the house and needs to be upgraded, but for video it's difficult to use a regular "pool table" light.
I still think that worked out pretty cool and I'm glad to be able to share, it's the first time we've filmed since the 'Touch Of Inside" video. Our next project will start this week and I can "bank" on it.
CJ -- Great shooting for sure.
But, as to pocket size-- from the WPA's Tournament Table and Equipment Specifications:
"The pocket openings for pool tables are measured between opposing cushion noses where the direction changes into the pocket (from pointed lip to pointed lip). This is called mouth."
So, regardless of how many shims are on those pockets, they are about 4 1/2", not 4 1/8".
Just for comparison, 4 1/2" is pretty much the standard size now for the tables Diamond supplies for pro tournaments.
"tighter than a clam with lockjaw"
The "FatBoy Pockets" are smaller, but not by too much. Anyone that played in my pool room, CJ's Billiard Palace will attest to how tight the tables were. This one was one of the tightest ones there and I moved it to my house because of sentimental reasons (Earl Strickland running the 11 Racks in a Row for the Million Dollar Challenge).
Anyway, I"m not going to "split hairs" over pocket size, I've played on my share of tables and I know this one is "tighter than a clam with lockjaw"....is that a general enough size? :groucho:
4" Fatboy Rails
CJ's Table
The "FatBoy Pockets" are smaller, but not by too much. Anyone that played in my pool room, CJ's Billiard Palace will attest to how tight the tables were. This one was one of the tightest ones there and I moved it to my house because of sentimental reasons (Earl Strickland running the 11 Racks in a Row for the Million Dollar Challenge).
Anyway, I"m not going to "split hairs" over pocket size, I've played on my share of tables and I know this one is "tighter than a clam with lockjaw"....is that a general enough size? :groucho:
I cant win arguments.
I know sometimes I get a little on disagreeing side of people,but that is because I dont agree with some of things there preaching.Even if Im wrong on things dosnt give you any rite to put me down for it.
We all have opinions, mine just aint worth anything.
What ever you think of me Its all good.
If you was as good at pool as arguing you could spot the world the 5.
Take care .
Anthony
Disagreeing is one thing. Calling people liars is not disagreeing it's defamation. Having an opinion doesn't give you the right to call people liars.
How would you feel if someone went around and said that you edited all your videos to make it look like all the shots were done consecutively and that it wasn't you making the shots? I mean if I were you I'd be really proud of being able to shoot as well as you do and a little upset if someone accused me of faking it. Why do you think I don't post videos of me running racks? Because, right now, I can't get there.
But I would think you would appreciate the accomplishments of those who can run racks and not be acting nitty by trying to discredit them. I mean you are a great player as far as I can tell. To me it's sad to see you trying hard to knock Stan and CJ. Maybe it's not your intention but that's what happens when you essentially call them liars.
I guess if pointing out facts is "arguing well" then yes I suppose I can spot quite a few people the five out and be stealing.
Nice shooting CJ !!!
We appreciate you saying that
Thanks JCIN, We appreciate you saying that - not bad for an "Old Man". :groucho:
These are the original Fatboy rails which I was told were right at four inches. Glen would know exactly what they were.
I watched the video and regardless of the pocket size it was an impressive display.
Thanks JCIN, We appreciate you saying that - not bad for an "Old Man".
:groucho:
Great run
Nice run, thank´s for sharing.
I have a table at work that is shimmed, real tricky to play on. Sad to say I don´t have the time to play there much, looking for a new home to fit it in.
But the "tightest table" don´t win imo, to tight of a table and it´s a bit of a different game, one thing I like is to cheat the pockets (sometimes, prefer center if I "can") a bit and at least on my tables it punish you to much. The shimming however isn´t done good at all, some shots that should go in won´t because of the facing.
When I will get a new place to put it in I will try my hardest to rebuilt it so the shimming isn´t necessary but still have it tight, - if it´s possible.
Whatever the size in your pockets CJ it was a very nice run and I appreciate that you are showing it, love to see your play. Makes the written explenations easier to comprehend. And the last time I looke the CJ/SteveM match is gone from Youtube
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I´m no expert in TOI by no means but I have been shooting with it since CJ spoke about it and when you know what to look for you see a lot of it from other guys also, maybe they don´t know about it, maybe they do - but it´s there, sneaky hustlers.....:wink:
Chrippa
Nice run, thank´s for sharing.
I have a table at work that is shimmed, real tricky to play on. Sad to say I don´t have the time to play there much, looking for a new home to fit it in
.But the "tightest table" don´t win imo, to tight of a table and it´s a bit of a different game, one thing I like is to cheat the pockets (sometimes, prefer center if I "can") a bit and at least on my tables it punish you to much. The shimming however isn´t done good at all, some shots that should go in won´t because of the facing.
When I will get a new place to put it in I will try my hardest to rebuilt it so the shimming isn´t necessary but still have it tight, - if it´s possible.
Whatever the size in your pockets CJ it was a very nice run and I appreciate that you are showing it, love to see your play. Makes the written explenations easier to comprehend. And the last time I looke the CJ/SteveM match is gone from Youtube
.I´m no expert in TOI by no means but I have been shooting with it since CJ spoke about it and when you know what to look for you see a lot of it from other guys also, maybe they don´t know about it, maybe they do - but it´s there, sneaky hustlers.....:wink:
Chrippa
damn fine shooting....
I've done the drill both ways (BIH after the break, and the firmer break without BIH). It may be a little tougher using your normal 1P break (one that you would use against an opponent) and getting out, since you do have more bumping the stack, etc. But running in either case is GREAT shooting.
BTW, wasn't trying to nitpick, but as an example; your first break made a ball in your opponents pocket and not yours, so obviously you wouldn't break like that in a game. But when doing Jay's 1P challenge at the Derby, you don't get BIH, so it makes sense to open up the balls more, and give yourself a good opening shot....
thanks for posting the video link!!!
I've done the drill both ways (BIH after the break, and the firmer break without BIH). It may be a little tougher using your normal 1P break (one that you would use against an opponent) and getting out, since you do have more bumping the stack, etc. But running in either case is GREAT shooting.
BTW, wasn't trying to nitpick, but as an example; your first break made a ball in your opponents pocket and not yours, so obviously you wouldn't break like that in a game. But when doing Jay's 1P challenge at the Derby, you don't get BIH, so it makes sense to open up the balls more, and give yourself a good opening shot....
thanks for posting the video link!!!