I have played this game off and on for 30 years. After reading the past week or so some of what CJ has been posting I started playing around with it at home. I was amazed how easy long slight to moderate long rail shots became. I am still dialing it in and still seem to overcut a few shots but thefunny thing is shapes become almost effortless. The cue ball seems to do just what you want it too. I will definately be buying the CD soon to study this alot more. Thank You CJ fr putting this info out there for the public to learn and use.
CJ Wiley's Free Introduction to the Touch OF Inside Technique
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TOI is extremely effective because you are creating the "true angles."
Yes, your experience has you moving in the right {TOI} direction. When I first started posting on AZ I made statements about "knowing" if someone was trying my techniques or not. This made some players uncomfortable and just flat out didn't want to believe me. I'm confident most of you that ARE experiencing the TOI Technique understand for yourselves what I was talking about. You simply can't "fake" a true experience with TOI, there are too many "tell tail" signs.
Once you start to experience the "INSIDE METHOD," it's obvious in how you talk about it. The TOI is exciting because it opens up the "secret dimension" of pocket billiards. Yes, in response to your statements, the position part of TOI is extremely effective because you are creating the "true angles." In addition to that you are able to "cheat" the pocket at will because you are also dealing with the "true shot line", which is MUCH more accurate (than the one from a spinning or center ball hit).
Another thing about the "center ball hit," is it doesn't give you the same feeling and touch as the TOI when cuing any degree of angle. Center ball only gives you that feeling when the object ball is straight in and I reveal {for you} the reasons in the TOI Video. Some of you may already know.
If you are already getting these results using TOI on your own I'm looking forward to how you play 3 weeks after seeing the video. I'm putting a life time of TOI knowledge in this 90 minute video and it will put another level to your Game my friend. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Yes, your experience has you moving in the right {TOI} direction. When I first started posting on AZ I made statements about "knowing" if someone was trying my techniques or not. This made some players uncomfortable and just flat out didn't want to believe me. I'm confident most of you that ARE experiencing the TOI Technique understand for yourselves what I was talking about. You simply can't "fake" a true experience with TOI, there are too many "tell tail" signs.
Once you start to experience the "INSIDE METHOD," it's obvious in how you talk about it. The TOI is exciting because it opens up the "secret dimension" of pocket billiards. Yes, in response to your statements, the position part of TOI is extremely effective because you are creating the "true angles." In addition to that you are able to "cheat" the pocket at will because you are also dealing with the "true shot line", which is MUCH more accurate (than the one from a spinning or center ball hit).
Another thing about the "center ball hit," is it doesn't give you the same feeling and touch as the TOI when cuing any degree of angle. Center ball only gives you that feeling when the object ball is straight in and I reveal {for you} the reasons in the TOI Video. Some of you may already know.
If you are already getting these results using TOI on your own I'm looking forward to how you play 3 weeks after seeing the video. I'm putting a life time of TOI knowledge in this 90 minute video and it will put another level to your Game my friend. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Yeah really want to get the video for more info. I was useing too much inside at first maybe a full tip then realized just need a small amount. Still dialing it in but I can definately see the advatages. Especially the way the cue ball reacts off the OB. The only way I can say it is it just seems "right".
Things are different now, there's definitely a light at end of the tunnel.
Yes, when I left the Game it felt like I was deserting a struggling friend, but I had to do it. Due to the politics revolved around running the Professional CueSports Tour I could see there was no "happy ending" in sight.
Things are different now, there's definitely a light at end of the tunnel. My "other obligations" have been resolved and pool is exciting to me again.
I'm curious about your story and when we spoke. You saw me when I was playing on those tight "Black Crowns" quite a bit and had the TOI down to a science. I taught a few players how to use TOI back then, but unless they give me approval I won't disclose their names.
They have won lot$ using this system and I'm sure they would appreciate the confidentiality. It would be nice to know why you are, "Stones" if you want to disclose you're identity. I'll keep it to myself if you want to PM me later.
Yes, when I left the Game it felt like I was deserting a struggling friend, but I had to do it. Due to the politics revolved around running the Professional CueSports Tour I could see there was no "happy ending" in sight.
Things are different now, there's definitely a light at end of the tunnel. My "other obligations" have been resolved and pool is exciting to me again.
I'm curious about your story and when we spoke. You saw me when I was playing on those tight "Black Crowns" quite a bit and had the TOI down to a science. I taught a few players how to use TOI back then, but unless they give me approval I won't disclose their names.
They have won lot$ using this system and I'm sure they would appreciate the confidentiality. It would be nice to know why you are, "Stones" if you want to disclose you're identity. I'll keep it to myself if you want to PM me later.
I just have two questions..
1. Using this technique does the cue ball, after sinking the OB and hitting a cushion - come off at a reduced angle because of the slight amount of inside english?
2. Is TOI only used for shots that require no english on the CB? I wish I could stay in line all night long but I rarely do, and therefore need to use alot of different english to get back into position.
If I understand the method at all I just can't see how it would help on any shots but shots where you don't need to put any work on the CB?
1. Using this technique does the cue ball, after sinking the OB and hitting a cushion - come off at a reduced angle because of the slight amount of inside english?
2. Is TOI only used for shots that require no english on the CB? I wish I could stay in line all night long but I rarely do, and therefore need to use alot of different english to get back into position.
If I understand the method at all I just can't see how it would help on any shots but shots where you don't need to put any work on the CB?
TOI is used playing off of the OB tangent line.
Toi is used in conjunction with the 3 part pocket system.
If you have been spinning the QB to position for the next shot then the TOI concept may seem a bit strange to you.
Using TOI you will find that playing position for the next shot will allow you to continue to use TOI.
Using spin (which at times can be unpredictable) TOI takes out that issue.
CJ is posting a TOI video this weekend that should help you to understand the use of TOI.
But to answer your question, if my opponent misses and its now my shot and the only way I'm going to get position on the next shot is to use 1 tip of high spin, I'm going for it, but I will leave the QB in such a position that now I can start using TOI.
Wait until the PPV TOI video comes out and as CJ has said he will answer any questions that folks might have.
Have fun :smile:
John
Toi is used in conjunction with the 3 part pocket system.
If you have been spinning the QB to position for the next shot then the TOI concept may seem a bit strange to you.
Using TOI you will find that playing position for the next shot will allow you to continue to use TOI.
Using spin (which at times can be unpredictable) TOI takes out that issue.
CJ is posting a TOI video this weekend that should help you to understand the use of TOI.
But to answer your question, if my opponent misses and its now my shot and the only way I'm going to get position on the next shot is to use 1 tip of high spin, I'm going for it, but I will leave the QB in such a position that now I can start using TOI.
Wait until the PPV TOI video comes out and as CJ has said he will answer any questions that folks might have.
Have fun :smile:
John
CJ, I will be purchasing this for two reasons. The first reason being that I think it sounds very logical, and I think I can improve with some practice using it. The other reason is to show my support and appreciation for you posting here so regularly. It's nice to have someone so knowledgeable and personable on here.
shooting a bow and arrow, which is very similar to a pool shot.
Yes, Mary has incorporated these techniques on her own and has become an incredible shot maker. She even rifles them in on a 12' Snooker table.
She really likes shooting a bow and arrow, which is very similar to a pool shot.
Yes, Mary has incorporated these techniques on her own and has become an incredible shot maker. She even rifles them in on a 12' Snooker table.
She really likes shooting a bow and arrow, which is very similar to a pool shot.
Right this minute I'm naming the last few chapters (there's over 20") in the video
Thanks, Right this minute I'm naming the last few chapters (there's over 20") in the video, then we start uploading it for PPV at www.cjwiley.com
I appreciate your positive words and if you liked my "Pool Secrets," the TOI is, indeed, my ultimate "inside" secret.
Thanks again, "call shot" ..... 'The Game is my Teacher'
Thanks, Right this minute I'm naming the last few chapters (there's over 20") in the video, then we start uploading it for PPV at www.cjwiley.com
I appreciate your positive words and if you liked my "Pool Secrets," the TOI is, indeed, my ultimate "inside" secret.
Thanks again, "call shot" ..... 'The Game is my Teacher'
I advise people to use the TOI exclusively (NO SPIN) until they get comfortable
Yes, I do a pivot to apply "outside English, not inside English," however, to learn the TOI technique I advise people to use the TOI exclusively (NO SPIN) until they get comfortable with it.
As long as you come down INSIDE it works with the TOI , however, the standard backhand English method starts out at center (not Inside). I don't use the "backhand English" method on anything but banks, and that's a completely different subject.
To use the TOI Technique as I do, you must not pivot to the Inside, you must go over parallel. Is it possible to use some mixed version to what I do? Of course, I encourage everyone to develop a version that fits their style and personality.
I am a PURE TOI PLAYER and use a Pivot if I want to curve or masse' the cue ball, {or} very close to the object ball,{or} need to change the angle coming off a rail/cushion.
Yes, I do a pivot to apply "outside English, not inside English," however, to learn the TOI technique I advise people to use the TOI exclusively (NO SPIN) until they get comfortable with it.
As long as you come down INSIDE it works with the TOI , however, the standard backhand English method starts out at center (not Inside). I don't use the "backhand English" method on anything but banks, and that's a completely different subject.
To use the TOI Technique as I do, you must not pivot to the Inside, you must go over parallel. Is it possible to use some mixed version to what I do? Of course, I encourage everyone to develop a version that fits their style and personality.
I am a PURE TOI PLAYER and use a Pivot if I want to curve or masse' the cue ball, {or} very close to the object ball,{or} need to change the angle coming off a rail/cushion.
Yes, I do a pivot to apply "outside English, not inside English," however, to learn the TOI technique I advise people to use the TOI exclusively (NO SPIN) until they get comfortable with it.
As long as you come down INSIDE it works with the TOI , however, the standard backhand English method starts out at center (not Inside). I don't use the "backhand English" method on anything but banks, and that's a completely different subject.
To use the TOI Technique as I do, you must not pivot to the Inside, you must go over parallel. Is it possible to use some mixed version to what I do? Of course, I encourage everyone to develop a version that fits their style and personality.
I am a PURE TOI PLAYER and use a Pivot if I want to curve or masse' the cue ball, {or} very close to the object ball,{or} need to change the angle coming off a rail/cushion.
I don't use the "backhand English" method on anything but banks, and that's a completely different subject.
CJ,
Any chance you will put out any info, in the form of a video, on banking?
I've learned so much from your DVD's and posts. You have a great style of conveying instructions. Many thanks for all that you do for us.
I'm also very much looking forward to the release of your new video and ordering it.
Off topic, CJ, there's an amusing (Freudian?) slip near the bottom of your website's home page that I know you'll appreciate hearing about for easy correction (after you've chuckled as I did, upon reading it):
VOLUME THREE: ESPN word champion CJ Wiley
Helpfully intended,
Arnaldo
Off topic, CJ, there's an amusing (Freudian?) slip near the bottom of your website's home page that I know you'll appreciate hearing about for easy correction (after you've chuckled as I did, upon reading it):
VOLUME THREE: ESPN word champion CJ Wiley
Helpfully intended,
Arnaldo
Just like TOI it's important to establish a consistent "shot speed"
I do have this system, it's shown on my 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' ...take a look under the banking chapter. Basically "ONE TIP" banking cross side equals a ONE DIAMOND angle and ONE TIP on straight backs equal a TWO DIAMOND angle....this is done by cuing the balls like a straight in shot and then PIVOTING (not parallel like the TOI) one tip to create the angle.
The reason the angle is two diamonds 9' away and one diamond 4.5' away is simple - the greater distance allows the spin to create a wider angle. Just like TOI it's important to establish a consistent "shot speed," so the angles are controlled by using the cue ball/tip to establish the angle you require.
You can do the same thing using the TOI, HOWEVER, you must move the cue parallel instead of Pivoting. Remember, to "Deflect" to create an angle move parallel and to "SPIN" the angle Pivot the tip to the OUTSIDE.
This is shown on 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' and is very effective because if frees you up to play the cue ball exclusively.
I don't use the "backhand English" method on anything but banks, and that's a completely different subject.
CJ,
Any chance you will put out any info, in the form of a video, on banking?
I've learned so much from your DVD's and posts. You have a great style of conveying instructions. Many thanks for all that you do for us.
I do have this system, it's shown on my 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' ...take a look under the banking chapter. Basically "ONE TIP" banking cross side equals a ONE DIAMOND angle and ONE TIP on straight backs equal a TWO DIAMOND angle....this is done by cuing the balls like a straight in shot and then PIVOTING (not parallel like the TOI) one tip to create the angle.
The reason the angle is two diamonds 9' away and one diamond 4.5' away is simple - the greater distance allows the spin to create a wider angle. Just like TOI it's important to establish a consistent "shot speed," so the angles are controlled by using the cue ball/tip to establish the angle you require.
You can do the same thing using the TOI, HOWEVER, you must move the cue parallel instead of Pivoting. Remember, to "Deflect" to create an angle move parallel and to "SPIN" the angle Pivot the tip to the OUTSIDE.
This is shown on 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' and is very effective because if frees you up to play the cue ball exclusively.
I couldn't agree with you more and ill be purchasing the DVD also. It's rare to have someone at CJ's level posting on the forum and interacting with the forum. The first time I saw CJ was at the RakMup Classic in Columbia, SC in the early 90's and all I could think watching him hit shots was "who is this guy whose making the game look so easy"! I have CJ's first DVD set and I learned a lot from it and I can't wait to get the new TOI DVD set to watch and learn from.
James