CJ Wiley's New Instructional DVD

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It just arrived a few minutes ago - I'm pretty excited. Been looking forward to this one for a while. Now I have to ram through a client demo and send my fiance (who's off today) on a wild goose-chase for some crap we really don't need at a place that probably doesn't have it so I can watch this in peace.
 
Just watched it. Very professionally done. Several key things I picked up which make the DVD worth well more than the purchase price.

I also take something different away from the TOI (Touch of Inside) than how it's been explained in the marathon thread. It seems like the theme of the thread discussion is how the CB reacts off the OB with TOI. In the DVD, I understand the primary purpose of TOI is to be creating a method for having consistent English (albeit a minimal amount) on the CB. It is impossible to hit the CB dead, perfect center every time (assuming that is where we're aiming). My understanding of the true purpose of TOI is to concede we can't hit the CB dead center, so by using TOI, we at least know we're hitting it on one side rather than the potential of 3 (right, center, left). Combining that with the 3 part aiming system then makes a lot of sense.

Anyway, well done CJ, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed Mary Avina too, quite the hottie! LOL
 
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hey whats up man glad to hear you like the video, I've ordered one myself. I was wondering how long ago you made your order? Ordered mine a little while ago thought it would be here by now. = (
 
Overall, I think it was a good instructional DVD. I picked up a number of gems to make it worth while.

My only real complaint (and this is more of a pet-peave) is that the audio level isn't consistent throughout. Some scenes have normal audio levels and some scenes have the audio drop much lower, forcing you to turn up the volume on your TV--- and next thing ya know, you blow out your speakers when the video cuts to another clip where the audio is normal again.

At the very end of the video, I see that it was produced by Avina Productions, which probably means Mary Avina did the editing. So Mary, if you're reading this, please have someone show you how to pull mic audio from multiple sources into a mixing board and have the output "level" at a constant strength. It's really quite easy and if you don't have a sound board you can probably rent one super cheap. I'm guessing it's her first instructional video, so it's no biggie--- please take it as constructive criticism so CJ's next video has normal audio :)

CJ covers the basics again -- some of which were overlaps to his first instructional video -- except added descriptions of his view of setting up to a vertical and horizontal plane. There are a few key things in this section I found interesting and I'm looking forward to trying them at a table.

He did cover his 3-part pocket system, TOI, and wrist -- which is what initially got me interested in this dvd. Personally, I wish his entire DVD were only these topics as more advanced players are hungry for this specific stuff. If I can put a request into CJ it would be to make an "Advanced" DVD on ONLY the above and talk through a number of racks and describe your alignment method for each particular shot and describe your TOI offset (would love to see this with an overhead camera view).

Overall, I enjoyed the DVD and learned some new concepts. I hope CJ reads this and does a 3-part Pocket System / TOI DVD and has an hour to an hour and a half of him commentating through numerous racks (maybe play the ghost in a race to 20 or something).

Dave
 
Got mine today.

Very well put together. It was tough not watching the Mosconi Cup to watch the DVD.

Watched the DVD then went right back to the Mosconi Cup action.

I too have picked up a few things from the DVD and have taken them to the table. Now to practice, practice and practice some more.

Your right, trying to put TOI into words would be a challenge. I dont think I could clearly describe it.

Thanks for the DVD CJ.

John
 
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He did cover his 3-part pocket system, TOI, and wrist -- which is what initially got me interested in this dvd. Personally, I wish his entire DVD were only these topics as more advanced players are hungry for this specific stuff. If I can put a request into CJ it would be to make an "Advanced" DVD on ONLY the above and talk through a number of racks and describe your alignment method for each particular shot and describe your TOI offset (would love to see this with an overhead camera view).

Overall, I enjoyed the DVD and learned some new concepts. I hope CJ reads this and does a 3-part Pocket System / TOI DVD and has an hour to an hour and a half of him commentating through numerous racks (maybe play the ghost in a race to 20 or something).

Dave

I was talking to a friend about this very thing. CJ said he was going to make a video a while back and do the YouTube thing. He could prolly do a couple of hours with an advanced DVD and get paid for his efforts. I'd buy one, for sure.

I'd like to hear his thoughts as he runs a few balls and shows a few advanced strokes and position options. His DVD is good, but I'm ready for the next installment! Git 'er dun, CJ! On second thought...win the Cup first! anim_19.gif party0019.gif

Best,
Mike
 
Maybe he could just film a couple of racks via head cam...use his cue to demonstrate how he's connecting the CB/OB/pocket zone, then show just how subtle the TOI is. Watch how he does it shot to shot, calling out his leaves and how he does it with TOI.;)
 
Maybe he could just film a couple of racks via head cam...use his cue to demonstrate how he's connecting the CB/OB/pocket zone, then show just how subtle the TOI is. Watch how he does it shot to shot, calling out his leaves and how he does it with TOI.;)

I'll second that. Max did a heck of a job with his head cam. Got to see what he was seeing.....including the stroke. :smile:

John
 
His game was stronger than mine in several ways, but the TOI was a potent equalizer.

Overall, I think it was a good instructional DVD. I picked up a number of gems to make it worth while.

My only real complaint (and this is more of a pet-peave) is that the audio level isn't consistent throughout. Some scenes have normal audio levels and some scenes have the audio drop much lower, forcing you to turn up the volume on your TV--- and next thing ya know, you blow out your speakers when the video cuts to another clip where the audio is normal again.

At the very end of the video, I see that it was produced by Avina Productions, which probably means Mary Avina did the editing. So Mary, if you're reading this, please have someone show you how to pull mic audio from multiple sources into a mixing board and have the output "level" at a constant strength. It's really quite easy and if you don't have a sound board you can probably rent one super cheap. I'm guessing it's her first instructional video, so it's no biggie--- please take it as constructive criticism so CJ's next video has normal audio :)

CJ covers the basics again -- some of which were overlaps to his first instructional video -- except added descriptions of his view of setting up to a vertical and horizontal plane. There are a few key things in this section I found interesting and I'm looking forward to trying them at a table.

He did cover his 3-part pocket system, TOI, and wrist -- which is what initially got me interested in this dvd. Personally, I wish his entire DVD were only these topics as more advanced players are hungry for this specific stuff. If I can put a request into CJ it would be to make an "Advanced" DVD on ONLY the above and talk through a number of racks and describe your alignment method for each particular shot and describe your TOI offset (would love to see this with an overhead camera view).

Overall, I enjoyed the DVD and learned some new concepts. I hope CJ reads this and does a 3-part Pocket System / TOI DVD and has an hour to an hour and a half of him commentating through numerous racks (maybe play the ghost in a race to 20 or something).

Dave


I agree with your constuctive comments, Dave, and appreciate your honest input. We were shooting with two different cameras, the same type, but one was a two years older and the video feed was different. You're right, we could have used a mixer board, and if we weren't behind schedule and looking down the barrel of the Mosconi Cup we may have been able to make it better. I made the call that it was satisfactory, even though it does dip up and down a bit in a few chapters as you pointed out.

As far as the "Touch of Inside" {TOI} system, I am going to put together at least a 30 minute, and maybe it will take 45 minutes to explain and demonstrate this in much more detail. Advanced Pool concepts are easier to explain for me on video rather than in writing, and still it takes more time than we would think to give the explanation and demonstration adequate time.

I also agree that playing the "ghost" in some way using the technique is essential as well. I've said I can beat "the ghost" playing 15 ball rotation if I can pick one ball off after the break and that would be good to showcase. When you see how effective this system is it will change everyone's perspective on how it works.

Johnny Archer and I talked about is for an hour or so, and even though he doesn't use it on every shot he still knows the value of using it, especially on difficult shots and long, off angled rail shots. How would you like to learn the system from Johnny and me in a two day seminar? I told him that was the advantage I had on him back when we gambled. His game was stronger than mine in several ways, but my TOI was a potent equalizer.

I'm confident that the TOI technique, if practiced for a few hours will open up anyone's perspective of what's possible over and beyond the shots you've currently been exposed to. If I can beat the 14 ball ghost using the TOI I'm pretty sure you can benefit from experiencing it first hand.

I have a Special Christmas Gift Opportunity at this Link if you're doing "last minute shopping."
 
I will experiment with this "head cam"

Maybe he could just film a couple of racks via head cam...use his cue to demonstrate how he's connecting the CB/OB/pocket zone, then show just how subtle the TOI is. Watch how he does it shot to shot, calling out his leaves and how he does it with TOI.;)

I will experiment with this "head cam", although my first thought is the head cam may be too high to see the contact and like I've said before it's very slight. My main thing is to "favor" that side of the cue ball, but not enough to impart spin (minute if any).

I'm sure we can come up with some creative camera angles to capture how the shot is produced. Even when I show this to other players live they still can't believe some of the angles I can generate using the TOI. The reason is simply because so many have bought into thinking these shots must be hit with outside english, and this just isn't true at all.
 
I agree with your constuctive comments, Dave, and appreciate your honest input. We were shooting with two different cameras, the same type, but one was a two years older and the video feed was different. You're right, we could have used a mixer board, and if we weren't behind schedule and looking down the barrel of the Mosconi Cup we may have been able to make it better. I made the call that it was satisfactory, even though it does dip up and down a bit in a few chapters as you pointed out.

As far as the "Touch of Inside" {TOI} system, I am going to put together at least a 30 minute, and maybe it will take 45 minutes to explain and demonstrate this in much more detail. Advanced Pool concepts are easier to explain for me on video rather than in writing, and still it takes more time than we would think to give the explanation and demonstration adequate time.

I also agree that playing the "ghost" in some way using the technique is essential as well. I've said I can beat "the ghost" playing 15 ball rotation if I can pick one ball off after the break and that would be good to showcase. When you see how effective this system is it will change everyone's perspective on how it works.

Johnny Archer and I talked about is for an hour or so, and even though he doesn't use it on every shot he still knows the value of using it, especially on difficult shots and long, off angled rail shots. How would you like to learn the system from Johnny and me in a two day seminar? I told him that was the advantage I had on him back when we gambled. His game was stronger than mine in several ways, but my TOI was a potent equalizer.

I'm confident that the TOI technique, if practiced for a few hours will open up anyone's perspective of what's possible over and beyond the shots you've currently been exposed to. If I can beat the 14 ball ghost using the TOI I'm pretty sure you can benefit from experiencing it first hand.

I have a Special Christmas Gift Opportunity at this Link if you're doing "last minute shopping."

I'd consider a seminar depending on the dates and location(s) available. Probably a mutual friend of ours, CJ would tag along for another slot, too. I think it'd be a good time and a great presentation!

Best,
Mike
 
i was showed a version of the TOI this past june, I started to use it on some shots-with very good results. I like it. I listened to CJ talk about it in London and I have lots to learn. its not for beginners thats for sure IMO. Solid stuff.
 
No matter what your talent level, this is something that's essential

I'd consider a seminar depending on the dates and location(s) available. Probably a mutual friend of ours, CJ would tag along for another slot, too. I think it'd be a good time and a great presentation!

Best,
Mike

We'll see how things develop, I know Johnny is committed to Bonus Ball, so it would have to work around that. Maybe we could even do it in Vegas, who knows. I really paid attention to how Johnny hits the cue ball this last week in London and we talked about how his game has evolved in this respect. He was striking the cue ball very pure....very pure indeed. ;)

He's certainly gravitated towards hitting slightly inside more than he ever did in his earlier years. I think that's why he's so consistent under the biggest pressure, he's reduced his need for unnecessary calculations. No matter what your talent level, this is something that's essential for maximum consistency. How you approach pocketing the shots is directly connected to maximizing the "pocket zone." 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
CJ, that above link to the special offer isn't working. Or at least it didn't work for me.

It take you to my face book page where I describe the offer. It's a buy one get on free offer for my DVDs.....I just don't think it's "proper" for me to advertise it on this forum, but it does apply to what we are discussing.

I guess I can put it on the Sales Forum instead if you want to look there I'll put it up in a few minutes.
 
We'll see how things develop, I know Johnny is committed to Bonus Ball, so it would have to work around that. Maybe we could even do it in Vegas, who knows. I really paid attention to how Johnny hits the cue ball this last week in London and we talked about how his game has evolved in this respect. He was striking the cue ball very pure....very pure indeed. ;)

He's certainly gravitated towards hitting slightly inside more than he ever did in his earlier years. I think that's why he's so consistent under the biggest pressure, he's reduced his need for unnecessary calculations. No matter what your talent level, this is something that's essential for maximum consistency. How you approach pocketing the shots is directly connected to maximizing the "pocket zone." 'The Game is the Teacher'

I noticed Johnny cueing a couple of different ways for english. He addressed the cue ball usually in the traditional manner for most shots (aimed the left side of the cue ball for left spin and vice versa). I noticed when he used a TOI, he crossed over the cue ball. He cued outside and finished with a hit on the opposite side.

I've seen vids where Efren does this, also. At the time I didn't realize what I was looking at, but I now know I saw other top players using this crossing over technique in person over the years. I guess I just didn't know, what I didn't know.

Best,
Mike
 
I noticed Johnny cueing a couple of different ways for english. He addressed the cue ball usually in the traditional manner for most shots (aimed the left side of the cue ball for left spin and vice versa). I noticed when he used a TOI, he crossed over the cue ball. He cued outside and finished with a hit on the opposite side.

I've seen vids where Efren does this, also. At the time I didn't realize what I was looking at, but I now know I saw other top players using this crossing over technique in person over the years. I guess I just didn't know, what I didn't know.

Best,
Mike

Hi Mike,

What do you mean regarding crossing over from outside to TOI?

Are you saying they are employing a FHE or BHE as compensation for the squirt?

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose & negate the 3 part pocket process?

I thought CJ said he used a slightly inside 'parallel' stick aim.

Best Regards & Thanks in Advance,
 
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