Clausing lathe 5439

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I have a friend that has one of these he will sell me for what seems a reasonable

fee. I don't know anything about lathes at all but I'd like to learn enough to just be

able to do a few things for my self. If any of you guys can advise me on this, I'd certainly

appreciate it. Thanks. Oh, btw, hes talking around 1500
 
I have a friend that has one of these he will sell me for what seems a reasonable

fee. I don't know anything about lathes at all but I'd like to learn enough to just be

able to do a few things for my self. If any of you guys can advise me on this, I'd certainly

appreciate it. Thanks. Oh, btw, hes talking around 1500

Buy it.

Somewhere on the net is a good article about how to buy a used lathe. Google should
find it for you... good first step.

Next, some kind of instruction on how to operate machine tools. In person at a
Vocational School would be best, but other resources are helpful.

Dale
 
Buy it.

Somewhere on the net is a good article about how to buy a used lathe. Google should
find it for you... good first step.

Next, some kind of instruction on how to operate machine tools. In person at a
Vocational School would be best, but other resources are helpful.

Dale

Good advice IMO ...

This might be the article on how to evaluate a used lathe.

http://www.mermac.com/advicenew.html

RIP Mr Ficken (used machinery dealer), one of the greats of the old rec.crafts.metalworking group.

Dave <-- lurk-mode-on-again
 
I would buy it if the bed is in great shape .
Among other things.
I have a 30" test rod. I'd indicate it end to end to check how good it is.

That is a good lathe for cue making .
 
Thanks you guys. Great advice and I would never have thought I'd find an article on how to buy a good lathe lol. I have found the manual for it already.
I'll definitely have to learn free m someone on how to use it without killing myself
I have never used one at all but I do watch a lots of videos that are on you tube
 

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I just spoke with the guy and he says all it needs is cleaned

up and painted. The bed is great it's variable speed comes with a few extras.

He has just split with a company that he was part of and doesn't

Have the room at home for all the tools he has.

I'm thinking I can pick this up for about 1500 although he's

asking a little more than that but not much.

I'm supposed to go look at it this weekend and I've really got to

do some intense research before I go just so I know what the

hell im looking at. Lol.

If anyone has something to add to this, please let me know
 
I'm supposed to go look at it this weekend and I've really got to

do some intense research before I go just so I know what the

hell im looking at. Lol.

If anyone has something to add to this, please let me know

Not sure but it could have a three phase motor, in which case you either get a converter/drive or swap the motor (unless you have access to three phase power). Of course if it's a single phase motor there is no issue. Also I have read things about the "varidrive" system that was an option on this lathe, another thing to research and investigate.

Good luck :)

Dave
 
Thanks for the help you guys. I have found out quick that you guys don't have

an easy job. lol. There's a TON of stuff to learn and many good sources, plus

helpful people like yourselves.

I gotta get busy here so I don't miss this buy, if I decide to give it a whirl. It probably

won't last long when the right person finds it
 
Not sure but it could have a three phase motor, in which case you either get a converter/drive or swap the motor (unless you have access to three phase power). Of course if it's a single phase motor there is no issue. Also I have read things about the "varidrive" system that was an option on this lathe, another thing to research and investigate.

Good luck :)

Dave

The VS drives you are referring to were on the 5900 series.

My advice, from someone who knows a few things about buying used, is to gain appreciable knowledge BEFORE making a purchase. Nearly EVERYTHING you need to look for is on the net.

Heavy machines are big purchases.....literally. Rushing is a terrible mistake that you will regret. If I wasn't SURE his asking price was really good, I'd offer far less than 1500.00. The only thing I ever jumped at for asking price was a new, in the unopened box, Baldor 1022wd grinder for 250.00. Then again, I knew exactly what it was and what it was worth. Make a list of what you need/want in your shop and learn about makes/models. Even though used manual machines are getting much more expensive than they were when the housing market crashed, a guy can put together a nice, be it basic, shop for 3-5k IF you know what you are doing and are FRICKEN PATIENT. Then again, if you have money to burn...forget what I said.

For the record, my first purchase was a 1340 Microweilly from a dealer for 3k(UGH). Guess what happened the VERY NEXT DAY? 3 fricken miles away a Clausing Colchester 1340 came up for the same price. A lathe many times better and 70 miles closer with better chuck...tooling...ect...ect... MY LOSS.

Another recent example of research paying of is the Ingersol Rand 2475 premium compressor(2500.00 plus new) I picked up for 400.00. They had 2 and said both had broken cranks and tripped the breakers because of it. They spent big bucks and converted to a rotary. I already had an older 5hp T30, but I went and had a look. The older 2475 did have a bent crank, but the MUCH new one spun as I thought it should. What I learned was that the newer one was tripping the reset on the compressor and not the breaker. I KNEW the pump was good and that was worth 400.00 EASY by itself, but I was also 90% sure that they just didn't feed it with a heavy enough(the guy selling it didn't even know and it was no longer attached) wire. I bought some 10/3 wire and it's run perfect ever since. I sold my old compressor for 600.00

For what's it's worth, here is a post I made years ago when I first started "hunting"
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=245486&highlight=machinery+buying+guide

I don't post too much on here anymore since a certain someone implied I'm not qualified to give advice, so make up your own mind as to whether on not I'm full of crap. In this instance, I have a WELL equipped shop that cost an avg. 20-30 cents on the dollar that says otherwise.

BTW, the above post what just my start. Besides the recent grinder, I got a performax 22-44 for 400.00 and a Powermatic PM2000 for FREE. Lots of other stuff too, but I've already ranted....I guess..long enough.

Anyway. My advice is sound. Take from it what you will....

Randy
 
Oh yeah...you probably want a pic or two
 

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Oh yeah...you probably want a pic or two

Randy,

You might want to check with the Compressor Company on the clearance distances between the walls of a confined space.

Not enough clearance can overheat the heads and damage the discharge valves.

Rick

Better to be safe than sorry.
 
The VS drives you are referring to were on the 5900 series.

My advice, from someone who knows a few things about buying used, is to gain appreciable knowledge BEFORE making a purchase. Nearly EVERYTHING you need to look for is on the net.

Heavy machines are big purchases.....literally. Rushing is a terrible mistake that you will regret.


Could be the 5900s I read about, although the 5400s and 6300s also had variable drive options from what I've seen. This is a great resource :

http://www.lathes.co.uk/clausing/page3.html

I agree 100% on the research and not rushing. It took me about 5 years to find a decent used lathe, to be fair in a small market area. Since then I've bought and sold several clunkers and seen a few more.

Dave <-- currently restoring a cute little Adept lathe http://www.lathes.co.uk/adept/index.html
 
More pics shouldn't be necessary. We're looking at what needs to be seen.
What pics won't show and what you're going to have to inspect personally are :
condition of the drive belt and related vari-drive pulleys, play in the compound/
cross-slide nuts & screws, excessive wear in the tailstock, wear in the headstock brgs.

It's a long bed, should make a decent 'all in one'. At that price you're stealing it.
It likely has hardened ways. I haven't seen a Clausing that didn't.
Your spindle bore needs to be 1-3/8". At the moment I'm to lazy to go look it up.
Don't let 3ph scare you. That's why God made phase converters. Get dynamic, not static.
Or spend the money and install a 1ph motor. They aren't too expensive. Get USA made.
I'd seriously consider moving the 'on-off switch'. Put it where you can get to it quickly.

You don't say where it's at, smart move. If I were anywhere near it, it would be mine.
Not that I'd use it. I'd bring it up to specs, fab a taper-bar and flip it for probably
more than twice what I paid for it. This lathe has the potential to make you some money.
Good Luck.

KJ
 
More pics shouldn't be necessary. We're looking at what needs to be seen.
What pics won't show and what you're going to have to inspect personally are :
condition of the drive belt and related vari-drive pulleys, play in the compound/
cross-slide nuts & screws, excessive wear in the tailstock, wear in the headstock brgs.

It's a long bed, should make a decent 'all in one'. At that price you're stealing it.
It likely has hardened ways. I haven't seen a Clausing that didn't.
Your spindle bore needs to be 1-3/8". At the moment I'm to lazy to go look it up.
Don't let 3ph scare you. That's why God made phase converters. Get dynamic, not static.
Or spend the money and install a 1ph motor. They aren't too expensive. Get USA made.
I'd seriously consider moving the 'on-off switch'. Put it where you can get to it quickly.

You don't say where it's at, smart move. If I were anywhere near it, it would be mine.
Not that I'd use it. I'd bring it up to specs, fab a taper-bar and flip it for probably
more than twice what I paid for it. This lathe has the potential to make you some money.
Good Luck.

KJ

I meant "I" had to post pics. Recently, I've been called out and required to show that I have "some" idea of what I'm talking about. I don't agree with KJ about it's worth though, however location is directly relevant to cost. In California, that isn't a lathe I would consider valuable....least not to me. I KNOW I couldn't flip it for any profit. Dealers make things really difficult as well. There are some that are literally sick in the head, as in HOARDER sick. Reliable Tools effectively bankrupted themselves by overbidding on EVERYTHING. On top of that, don't think there isn't funny business going on either. Watched a Clark lathe go for near retail recently, then it had to be transported....SICK. If I've got money to spend 6k on a used lathe, I'm not going to spend it on an import 1440 that I could get NEW for 7k....DELIVERED. These are "the guys" who drive prices up and out of reach and the reason used machinery has SKYROCKETED in the last 7 years.


You also need to factor in other costs. Another motor...more money. Don't fall victim to the illusion thinking you are going to offset much by reselling a small 3ph motor either. VFD...more money, but you get extra features like braking.... Moving it...more money.

If you'd like to know more, PM me directly.
 
I meant "I" had to post pics. Recently, I've been called out and required to show that I have "some" idea of what I'm talking about. I don't agree with KJ about it's worth though, however location is directly relevant to cost. In California, that isn't a lathe I would consider valuable....least not to me. I KNOW I couldn't flip it for any profit. Dealers make things really difficult as well. There are some that are literally sick in the head, as in HOARDER sick. Reliable Tools effectively bankrupted themselves by overbidding on EVERYTHING. On top of that, don't think there isn't funny business going on either. Watched a Clark lathe go for near retail recently, then it had to be transported....SICK. If I've got money to spend 6k on a used lathe, I'm not going to spend it on an import 1440 that I could get NEW for 7k....DELIVERED. These are "the guys" who drive prices up and out of reach and the reason used machinery has SKYROCKETED in the last 7 years.


You also need to factor in other costs. Another motor...more money. Don't fall victim to the illusion thinking you are going to offset much by reselling a small 3ph motor either. VFD...more money, but you get extra features like braking.... Moving it...more money.

If you'd like to know more, PM me directly.
I didn't even know Reliable went out of business.
Serves them right. They were aholes. And beat me a real good deal on lathe locally. I already had an agreement with the owner but they showed up and stole the lathe from me. Threw me on a loop for a while in my search for another lathe.

The lathe pictured looks like one of the 6300 series to me.
It's a good lathe if in great shape. OK deal at $1500, even here.
But, will need some work and a lot of heart to get really going imo.
 
I didn't even know Reliable went out of business.
Serves them right. They were aholes. And beat me a real good deal on lathe locally. I already had an agreement with the owner but they showed up and stole the lathe from me. Threw me on a loop for a while in my search for another lathe.

The lathe pictured looks like one of the 6300 series to me.
It's a good lathe if in great shape. OK deal at $1500, even here.
But, will need some work and a lot of heart to get really going imo.

It's a 5400. Reliable imploded years ago. If it makes you feel better Joey, I got a 400.00 Sharp TMV(10x50 boxed ways, x and y Servo powerfeeds, AND a Kurt power draw bar) for about 500.00 after renting a trailer. Also a nice 325.00 Lista workbench. The Servo's are worth more than 500.00 by themselves.

Knowledge is power...and money. There usually isn't enough time to research if a deal is good before it's gone. You must be prepared.
 
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