I can't beat you Tony. You're too good. I give up. You're right, I'm underrated and a sandbagger... I should give you the 5out, but I wont cause I have no heart. I give up. You win. Good luck. BYE
Cleary this game is for you :-)
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I can't beat you Tony. You're too good. I give up. You're right, I'm underrated and a sandbagger... I should give you the 5out, but I wont cause I have no heart. I give up. You win. Good luck. BYE
8 pack Wow Your right no hate here
I hate nobody, I dislike some people & some people might dislike me.
I try to tell it like I see it. I’m not always right but who is?
Dave, Like I said I value your opinion but, Cleary gambles a lot more than I do.
I’m sure you would agree that he has at least 20x more gambling experience than me.
I can count on ONE hand the times I have gambled in the Last TWO YEARS.
You probably alone have gambled with him more than all mine.
Remember I didn’t ask Cleary to play he asked me.
Why does he have to act so immature? Calling me names & posting negative images?
Listen, I didn’t want to play he offered I countered he countered said he would give me 2
on 13 instead of a short race to 7. I countered with 3 on 13 more than half of his counter.
OK I had enough I play his last offer of (2 on 13) We can play this Sat after the Tri-State Tour at Castle Billiards in East Rutherford.
If Cleary can’t make it Sat I think somebody offered their room here on AZ.
He can tell me how much he wants to BET/LOSE up to $1,000.00 We will post the Money TONIGHT!
I’m wide open!
I can’t make it until late Saturday.
I have family obligations I adopted my two nephews I have to see him Wrestle.
Then I have to see my Aunt before she passes, She just went into the HOSPUS plan.
I had enough, put up or run away Show everybody who you really are.
Sounds like you mite be the underdog.I like being the underdog, the pressure is not as bad.I always hated when someone told me i was suppose to win..never won one of them..lol .If you play good luck.
69 rs/ss high 10's low 11's @ 127-129mph
69 rs/ss high 10's low 11's @ 127-129mph (10.67 best time)
Ran down englishtown 89-92
I also used to run a 79 chevy van 5,500 pounds with a 383 stroker 13.61 best time in bracket nationals in Reading PA (Maple Grove Raceway)
LOL I Loved racing the Van in 90-91 I had to give a corvette A head start in the finals & beat the Vett by about 4 car lenths (on the breaks)
I guess Cleary didn't want to honor his offer of 2 on 13.
He is one gambler that don't know how to gamble.
If he wnats to, i'll still play him WITH HIS OFFER OF 2 on 13 in a neutral room on a table picked raffle style.
And i'll let HIM pick the money he wants to Bet/Lose.
I don't think it can be any more fair than that on my part.
69 rs/ss high 10's low 11's @ 127-129mph (10.67 best time)
Ran down englishtown 89-92
I also used to run a 79 chevy van 5,500 pounds with a 383 stroker 13.61 best time in bracket nationals in Reading PA (Maple Grove Raceway)
LOL I Loved racing the Van in 90-91 I had to give a corvette A head start in the finals & beat the Vett by about 4 car lenths (on the breaks)
I guess Cleary didn't want to honor his offer of 2 on 13.
He is one gambler that don't know how to gamble.
If he wnats to, i'll still play him WITH HIS OFFER OF 2 on 13 in a neutral room on a table picked raffle style.
And i'll let HIM pick the money he wants to Bet/Lose.
I don't think it can be any more fair than that on my part.
You're right Tony, I have no idea how to gamble. I cannot beat you. You're too good. Sorry for ever thinking I could beat you. I'm sorry you don't like me but you will have to continue to not like me. Cause I can't play you. You're too good. I can't play you 2 on 13.... I can't play you even. I can't play you if you GAVE ME 4 on 6!!!! I just cannot win no matter what the game is. So I give up. You win. CONGRATS!
To anyone else that's reading this.. I'm sorry your time was wasted. It just wasn't meant to be.
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Cali, you told him like it is!!
Exactly to the point! I agree 100% with what you said.
Now it is on the two of them!
Many Regards,
Lock N load.
I'm with everyone else here... grow a pair and play him even.
You keep droning on about him having more gambling experience then you, not a factor here. You make it sound like he's a full time gambler or something. Also, you drone on about him asking you to play, or that he "called you out".
He just asked if you wanted to gamble. You say Yes, or you say No. Nothing to get your panties in a wad about. It's not a sign of manhood if you gamble, so don't get all worked up about someone asking if you want to gamble a little.
As far as the spot... C'mon man. The only spot here, should stay in his company name http://www.spotclothing.com/
It sounds like you guys are roughly even, so if anyone is roughly even, you start out playing even. You don't ask for a spot right out of the gate. Geez man... step up to the plate and see how you do. if you lose a couple of sets, you can ask for a spot.
If you don't have enough faith in you being able to win, then don't play. Sorry, but anyone that wants 2 games on the wire to 13 or whatever, just as easily ought to be able to win even. I believe you're going to see more sets that end up with someone winning by 4 or more games, then it coming down to a game or two.
But really dude... you make this all out to be such a big deal. Someone asked if you want to gamble. You're both roughly the same caliber of player, so when that's the case, you play even to start out with.
A. if you don't want to gamble at all, just say no thanks and let it go, no reason to take offense to someone asking
B. If you do want to gamble, then play at least 1 set even, you can negotiate from there but don't count on anyone adjusting after one set. Cleary doesn't seem like the type of guy that's all into robbing people, so if you play a gentlemen s game, I'm sure he would work with you to make it as fair as possible.
C. If you DO ask for a spot before ever even playing him a set first, if he says "no, Homey don't think so", then there's your choices. You play even or not at all. No big deal. No need for 30 posts back and forth trying to milk out a game or 2 spot. Move on to the next guy.
Oh.. and I believe you were attempting to use the term HOSPICE, unless HOSPUS is a plan I am unaware of.
Exactly to the point! I agree 100% with what you said.
Now it is on the two of them!
Many Regards,
Lock N load.
Gambler being an a hole Now it's my turn
Originally Posted by The Chinchilla
After how long of playing like this??
This is a good question. I think if two players come up, and they are both equal.... one gambles -- the other doesn't..... after a year the gambler will out and out ROB the non gambler in tournaments AND gambling, and overall playing ability. That is just the way it is. If you don't like it, I don't know what to say.
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Gambler being an a hole Now it's my turn.
Cleary Being the Gambler that he is, Barked at me like a dog (If the shoe fits wear it)
Cleary made a game of 2 on 13
Barking all kinds of off the wall things. Cleary's game, his rooms,
His tables, On tight pockets, his amount, being a Fuc*&^g immature freak with name calling,
Posting Negative images, Just being a real A hole,
If he wanted to play a friendly match it would have been fine.
Now I would expect Cleary to honor his offer of 2 on 13 & be fair about where/When.
I'll even let him play for $1 to $1,000.00
Oh and Cleary Your corporation can back you up I'll play with my own Money.
Maybe we can have a tournament director (if $ 100 or more) to watch over the
non-sense that happends with things that go along with this sort of stuff.
Mr. Tournament Director Hopefully Cleary will agree to have a percentage paid to you
out of the winnings. If I win I do tip well
ANYTHING THAT I WANT AFTER THE 2 on 13 WILL BE TO HAVE A FAIR MATCH.
CLEARY are you willing to play & play fair without all the non-sense & name calling.
Maybe we can bring the respect back into the game.
Originally Posted by The Chinchilla
After how long of playing like this??
This is a good question. I think if two players come up, and they are both equal.... one gambles -- the other doesn't..... after a year the gambler will out and out ROB the non gambler in tournaments AND gambling, and overall playing ability. That is just the way it is. If you don't like it, I don't know what to say.
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Gambler being an a hole Now it's my turn.
Cleary Being the Gambler that he is, Barked at me like a dog (If the shoe fits wear it)
Cleary made a game of 2 on 13
Barking all kinds of off the wall things. Cleary's game, his rooms,
His tables, On tight pockets, his amount, being a Fuc*&^g immature freak with name calling,
Posting Negative images, Just being a real A hole,
If he wanted to play a friendly match it would have been fine.
Now I would expect Cleary to honor his offer of 2 on 13 & be fair about where/When.
I'll even let him play for $1 to $1,000.00
Oh and Cleary Your corporation can back you up I'll play with my own Money.
Maybe we can have a tournament director (if $ 100 or more) to watch over the
non-sense that happends with things that go along with this sort of stuff.
Mr. Tournament Director Hopefully Cleary will agree to have a percentage paid to you
out of the winnings. If I win I do tip well
ANYTHING THAT I WANT AFTER THE 2 on 13 WILL BE TO HAVE A FAIR MATCH.
CLEARY are you willing to play & play fair without all the non-sense & name calling.
Maybe we can bring the respect back into the game.
Seriously? Come off it man. You are both C players. You play more tournaments, he gambles more. It has been said by multiple unbiased parties on here that know you both that you play even.
He offered you 2 games which is most likely more than he should have ever given if you play even. After all your posturing and whining about it, trying to get something more, he finally laments and gives you the satisfaction of saying you're too good (which you apparently don't understand how it makes him the bigger man). Now you say a guy you play even who is offering you a spot should accept any terms you give because that is fair??? WTF is wrong with this picture? If you can't figure it out, you might need a friend to explain it to you.
To top it off, after all that, not to mention the fact that this should have never been a thread in the first place, you're trying to call him out for a game he tried to get a week ago?
If I were him, I wouldn't play you if I was free rolling. Sometimes the aggravation of dealing with certain people is not worth any amount of money.
Can you please just end this thread so people still hold whatever shred of respect they have left for you. Just agree to disagree with Cleary and move the hell on with your life.
<--- Finding it harder and harder to understand people every damn day.
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Originally Posted by The Chinchilla
After how long of playing like this??
This is a good question. I think if two players come up, and they are both equal.... one gambles -- the other doesn't..... after a year the gambler will out and out ROB the non gambler in tournaments AND gambling, and overall playing ability. That is just the way it is. If you don't like it, I don't know what to say.
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Gambler being an a hole Now it's my turn.
Cleary Being the Gambler that he is, Barked at me like a dog (If the shoe fits wear it)
Cleary made a game of 2 on 13
Barking all kinds of off the wall things. Cleary's game, his rooms,
His tables, On tight pockets, his amount, being a Fuc*&^g immature freak with name calling,
Posting Negative images, Just being a real A hole,
If he wanted to play a friendly match it would have been fine.
Now I would expect Cleary to honor his offer of 2 on 13 & be fair about where/When.
I'll even let him play for $1 to $1,000.00
Oh and Cleary Your corporation can back you up I'll play with my own Money.
Maybe we can have a tournament director (if $ 100 or more) to watch over the
non-sense that happends with things that go along with this sort of stuff.
Mr. Tournament Director Hopefully Cleary will agree to have a percentage paid to you
out of the winnings. If I win I do tip well
ANYTHING THAT I WANT AFTER THE 2 on 13 WILL BE TO HAVE A FAIR MATCH.
CLEARY are you willing to play & play fair without all the non-sense & name calling.
Maybe we can bring the respect back into the game.
Iggy, we are gonna have a nice convo next time I see you... believe that.
originally posted by the chinchilla
after how long of playing like this??
This is a good question. I think if two players come up, and they are both equal.... One gambles -- the other doesn't..... After a year the gambler will out and out rob the non gambler in tournaments and gambling, and overall playing ability. That is just the way it is. If you don't like it, i don't know what to say.
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gambler being an a hole now it's my turn.
Cleary being the gambler that he is, barked at me like a dog (if the shoe fits wear it)
cleary made a game of 2 on 13
barking all kinds of off the wall things. Cleary's game, his rooms,
his tables, on tight pockets, his amount, being a fuc*&^g immature freak with name calling,
posting negative images, just being a real a hole,
if he wanted to play a friendly match it would have been fine.
Now i would expect cleary to honor his offer of 2 on 13 & be fair about where/when.
I'll even let him play for $1 to $1,000.00
oh and cleary your corporation can back you up i'll play with my own money.
Maybe we can have a tournament director (if $ 100 or more) to watch over the
non-sense that happends with things that go along with this sort of stuff.
Mr. Tournament director hopefully cleary will agree to have a percentage paid to you
out of the winnings. If i win i do tip well
anything that i want after the 2 on 13 will be to have a fair match.
Cleary are you willing to play & play fair without all the non-sense & name calling.
Maybe we can bring the respect back into the game.
he doesn't want to play you, are you retarded yes or no?
is that even a question ..... i mean coooooomeeeee ooooonnnnnnnnn
wow i think iggy finally came to the conclusion that he was stealing at 2 on 13. i'm glad cleary's deciding not to play a game so heavily weighted against him.
man up and play even if you're going to play at all.
man up and play even if you're going to play at all.
It's really not nice to threaten people
Cleary, It's really not nice to threaten people.
I have no interest in talking to you, Nothing good will come out of it.
If you want to play a fair game that was posted on my last post below fine.
Otherwise only bad things can happen that we would both regret.
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Now i would expect cleary to honor his offer of 2 on 13 & be fair about where/when.
I'll even let him play for $1 to $1,000.00
oh and cleary your corporation can back you up i'll play with my own money.
Maybe we can have a tournament director (if $ 100 or more) to watch over the
non-sense that happends with things that go along with this sort of stuff.
Mr. Tournament director hopefully cleary will agree to have a percentage paid to you
out of the winnings. If i win i do tip well
anything that i want after the 2 on 13 will be to have a fair match.
Cleary are you willing to play & play fair without all the non-sense & name calling.
Maybe we can bring the respect back into the game.
Cleary, It's really not nice to threaten people.
I have no interest in talking to you, Nothing good will come out of it.
If you want to play a fair game that was posted on my last post below fine.
Otherwise only bad things can happen that we would both regret.
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Now i would expect cleary to honor his offer of 2 on 13 & be fair about where/when.
I'll even let him play for $1 to $1,000.00
oh and cleary your corporation can back you up i'll play with my own money.
Maybe we can have a tournament director (if $ 100 or more) to watch over the
non-sense that happends with things that go along with this sort of stuff.
Mr. Tournament director hopefully cleary will agree to have a percentage paid to you
out of the winnings. If i win i do tip well
anything that i want after the 2 on 13 will be to have a fair match.
Cleary are you willing to play & play fair without all the non-sense & name calling.
Maybe we can bring the respect back into the game.
You had the nuts and wouldnt play. Instead of playing you pissed me off. I'll never play you. Not any game. You don't deserve my money. If you want I can come over and we can talk any time. I'm real close to Kearny,nj. Maybe 3 minutes... We can talk in person. You don't see to be reading what I write but you should be able to understand me in person.
Maybe TAR can film your meeting.
For someone that doesn't have any interest in talking to someone, you sure have a lot to say.
Maybe someone should just taze the shit out of you and when you come to, you MIGHT come to your senses. You can call me a nit but.... I'm Not betting on that.....
Ok...
Cleary...Tony...
I know and like both of you but this has reached the point of getting out of hand.
If yall both really want to play. Here is the deal. I honestly think this is a fair game for both.
Best 2 out of 3 sets
All sets played even
Buy in for each set is 350 cash must post for all 3 sets in advance
Neutral Table (to be announced)
Magic Rack
Winner Breaks and must win by 2 or alternate break and no win by 2
Cue Ball fouls only
Set 1
9 ball race to 10
Set 2
9 ball race to 10
If it goes to to a 3rd set
10 ball race to 10
Now this is a fair game. Fair table. Fair bet. Fair rules
Now I like both of you.
But this is getting stupid on both parts
Either agree...or agree to disagree and just stop...
R
Cleary...Tony...
I know and like both of you but this has reached the point of getting out of hand.
If yall both really want to play. Here is the deal. I honestly think this is a fair game for both.
Best 2 out of 3 sets
All sets played even
Buy in for each set is 350 cash must post for all 3 sets in advance
Neutral Table (to be announced)
Magic Rack
Winner Breaks and must win by 2 or alternate break and no win by 2
Cue Ball fouls only
Set 1
9 ball race to 10
Set 2
9 ball race to 10
If it goes to to a 3rd set
10 ball race to 10
Now this is a fair game. Fair table. Fair bet. Fair rules
Now I like both of you.
But this is getting stupid on both parts
Either agree...or agree to disagree and just stop...
R
Rick, I've said several times that I DON'T WANT TO PLAY HIM. Nobody seems to hear it... but I have no interest in playing him ANY GAME. Not even, NOTHING. If I beat him, I'll have to hear about how I hustled him blah blah blah... this isn't worth it win or lose. I've said for the past 5 pages that I just don't want to play him and for him to just shut his mouth. Go back and re-read for yourself.