I think they already have been because his name is Dr. Gregory House
Clothing mirrors society
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I think they already have been because his name is Dr. Gregory House
bell said:
I wear my hat backwards nearly always, and forwards if: a) it's raining to keep my glasses dry, b) it's bright outside, or c) I'm shooting pool and the bill presses into my back--which drives me crazy.
I don't see anything against a hat forward or backward, but I certainly do hate sideways ones...it's just my generation, I suppose. I'm young enough to sport a backwards hat from the Metallica days (back when they had Dave Mustaine (sp?)) but not young enough to like wear it sideways...I guess.
The Woim
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An aside note: Blackjack mentioned Einstein having five sets of the same clothes so he wouldn't waste any brain energy on dressing. Apocryphal or not, cool story.
It's definitely a fact that Einstein was a nicotine fiend and he absolutely loved puffing on a briar. (That's lingo for a smoking pipe) Einstein's favorite tobacco was "Revelation" which The Woim also loves to smoke.
A quick Einstein story: Albert Einsten was preparing a lecture in front of a large classroom but then discovered at the last moment that he was out of pipe tobacco. The guy was such a nicotine fiend that he asked students to tally up some cigarettes and he cut them open and poured them into his smoking pipe (Einstein's favorite pipe style was what is called the Dublin and it's a straight pipe with no drop in the bowl) lit it then announced "I've made a new discovery. This cigarette tobacco is equal to pipe tobacco." Well, that's a fallacious conclusion because Albert was just "jonesing" for tobacco because at the end of his lecture he concluded that his earlier statement was incorrect. The cigarette tobacco lacked the texture and taste of his pipe tobacco.
Yours Very Truly,
The Woim
It's definitely a fact that Einstein was a nicotine fiend and he absolutely loved puffing on a briar. (That's lingo for a smoking pipe) Einstein's favorite tobacco was "Revelation" which The Woim also loves to smoke.
A quick Einstein story: Albert Einsten was preparing a lecture in front of a large classroom but then discovered at the last moment that he was out of pipe tobacco. The guy was such a nicotine fiend that he asked students to tally up some cigarettes and he cut them open and poured them into his smoking pipe (Einstein's favorite pipe style was what is called the Dublin and it's a straight pipe with no drop in the bowl) lit it then announced "I've made a new discovery. This cigarette tobacco is equal to pipe tobacco." Well, that's a fallacious conclusion because Albert was just "jonesing" for tobacco because at the end of his lecture he concluded that his earlier statement was incorrect. The cigarette tobacco lacked the texture and taste of his pipe tobacco.
Yours Very Truly,
The Woim
seymore15074 said:
I forgot the most important time for a backwards hat: when you're making out with a fine honey; actually, even when they're not so fine...
NEWSFLASH: The airline industry has step up to become our defacto fashion-police for elicit clothing.
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bell said:
Dang, I thought you're also gonna call me out for wearing mine at night.
bomber said:
One of the few quotes of Einsteins that I disagree with.
If he had been a man of average intelligence then I think many of his views about life would have been different or slightly adjusted.
He was revered so highly that no one ever said much about his dress and
his actions. He got all his respect from his mind.
If we are not up to his level then what do we do to distinguish ourselves and give us a leg up. After all almost everyone is within the average range
of most things.
I think people can wear and act however they want but they should not be pissed when other discriminate, profile, exclude and expect less due to their tastes.
In my life I have hired at least 500 people. We only have a short time to judge someone and clothing, actions and articulation are the basis.
Last week I had a guy show up wearing a vest with no shirt on underneath
He was a decent guy but I couldnt get it out of my head that he showed up in a pair of decent pants with just a vest and no shirt. Not a big vest but a regular v cut vest.You have to draw the line somewhere as I dont have time to figure out if the wrapper is better than the meat.
That line is interesting becuase in the retail merchandising and packaging world its a general thought toget the "wrapper better than the meat". Never knew where it came from.
frankncali said:One of the few quotes of Einsteins that I disagree with.
If he had been a man of average intelligence then I think many of his views about life would have been different or slightly adjusted.
He was revered so highly that no one ever said much about his dress and
his actions. He got all his respect from his mind.
If we are not up to his level then what do we do to distinguish ourselves and give us a leg up. After all almost everyone is within the average range
of most things.
I think people can wear and act however they want but they should not be pissed when other discriminate, profile, exclude and expect less due to their tastes.
In my life I have hired at least 500 people. We only have a short time to judge someone and clothing, actions and articulation are the basis.
Last week I had a guy show up wearing a vest with no shirt on underneath
You have to draw the line somewhere as I dont have time to figure out if the wrapper is better than the meat.
That line is interesting becuase in the retail merchandising and packaging world its a general thought toget the "wrapper better than the meat". Never knew where it came from.
So why even have an interview? Seems to me you can pick your guy from a line-up.
Our society has become solely based on image. Who cares if you're doing a good job? So long as you look good while you're doing it. We think it's silly when kids in high school judge each other by what they're wearing. But it happens everywhere. Appearances can be deceiving and often they are. That's why I make it a point not to have first impressions. I don't care if you're black, white, or green. I don't care if your pants are 3 sizes too big, or 3 sizes too small. You all get the same treatment until you open your mouth.
I know that everyone has a story. There was a time I lived in my car for 4 months. If you thought less of me because my clothes were wrinkled, then **** you.
Drew said:
So if I am chosing between a guy in his car and a guy who dresses well and has an address then I should hire the guy living in a car????
I guess I should if I dont want to go &^% myself.
Thats nuts. I interview people and then you have to decide and determine who moves on and who doesnt. There are other things that I look at as well. First impression are hard to overcome.
My problem isnt with the guy in a pool room not dressed well and acting well but rather with people going to interviews or other locations to meet someone where you will be viewed.
I simply wont hire the person because they arent smart enough to know to wear something decent.
One thing I wont count against a guy is if he is trying. If he dresses as well as he can afford and puts forth the effort to look and act right then he is ok.
We have gotten very complacent in the work place over the years as everyone thinks they have the right to be themselves whenever they feel like it. I just dont believe that to be true especially in the work place.
I don't know how you got the impression that I was referring to "younger people". My comments were about society as a whole. Of course I suppose there are some younger people who are self-conscious...Gregg said:
Doc
gulfportdoc said:I don't know how you got the impression that I was referring to "younger people". My comments were about society as a whole. Of course I suppose there are some younger people who are self-conscious...
Doc
Here in Saskatoon the people who wear their pants that low are also younger than 25 about 98% of the time, from what I've seen ... other than the odd plumber ... but that stereotype is not new, it's old
... anyway, that's how I got the impression, if'n it matters Doc.Dave, not so young anymore
it'd be nice if we didn't judge by how people dressed, but reading the example about the job interviews got me thinking that someone should at least be intelligent enough to recognize the judgment is there, recognize that their interviewer probably comes from a generation with certain clothing expectations, etc.
If a person fails to recognize these things and dresses accordingly, they're at least guilty of being kind of dim, and possibly just being antisocial.
The only clothing habit I find really lame is when people deliberately dress or alter their appearance just to put people off and bother others. If for example a girl wants to wear all black with ripped fishnets and pierce her eyebrow because she thinks it looks interesting or attractive, I'm all for that. If she wants to wear a mohawk and pierce the bridge of her nose and shave one of her eyebrows and replace it with a tattoo, and the only goal is to look weird and shocking to older people... I think it's a waste that she's indirectly letting other people dictate how she dresses and feels about her looks.
If a person fails to recognize these things and dresses accordingly, they're at least guilty of being kind of dim, and possibly just being antisocial.
The only clothing habit I find really lame is when people deliberately dress or alter their appearance just to put people off and bother others. If for example a girl wants to wear all black with ripped fishnets and pierce her eyebrow because she thinks it looks interesting or attractive, I'm all for that. If she wants to wear a mohawk and pierce the bridge of her nose and shave one of her eyebrows and replace it with a tattoo, and the only goal is to look weird and shocking to older people... I think it's a waste that she's indirectly letting other people dictate how she dresses and feels about her looks.